Coronavirus (political)

[MTK]

Masks and beards don't work, it's the #1 reason why I hate masking up.

[nonniey]

2d good article in 2 days from Unherd. They weren't on my radar before, will have to pay attention to them.

https://unherd.com/2022/01/we-need-t...-the-vaccines/

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

2d good article in 2 days from Unherd. They weren't on my radar before, will have to pay attention to them.

https://unherd.com/2022/01/we-need-t...-the-vaccines/

Any article that suggest Joe Rogan knows anything is BS. Saying his Podcast is import because it gives a different viewpoint is Ludacris .

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Any article that suggest Joe Rogan knows anything is BS. Saying his Podcast is import because it gives a different viewpoint is Ludacris .

From your response it seems like you only read the first paragraph. Why does that not surprise me?

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by nonniey

From your response it seems like you only read the first paragraph. Why does that not surprise me?

Ahh coming from someone who condemns all Unions because of some stuff in 1977 in another Country. Yes Rogan should be shut down because his information is not only wrong it 's dangerous. Same as that asswipe former president who's followers stormed the Capital. You can't scream fire in a crowed movie theater and call it free speech! You can't lie about the Vaccine and then blame others when people die.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Ahh coming from someone who condemns all Unions because of some stuff in 1977 in another Country. Yes Rogan should be shut down because his information is not only wrong it 's dangerous. Same as that asswipe former president who's followers stormed the Capital. You can't scream fire in a crowed movie theater and call it free speech! You can't lie about the Vaccine and then blame others when people die.

Damn you really only did read the first paragraph, even after other poster's ( who usually agree with you) comments essentially refuted your take. Why don't you go back and read the entire article so you become a bit more informed on what you are commenting on.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by nonniey

2d good article in 2 days from Unherd. They weren't on my radar before, will have to pay attention to them.

https://unherd.com/2022/01/we-need-t...-the-vaccines/

I finally had a chance to sit down and read this. There are some interesting points. Notably should a podcast be treated as media and therefore subjected to same censorship when they intentionally disperse false information. Yet we know that is loosely followed in our country anyways so the idea of censoring him would be political posturing IMO.

I do have a problem with some of his logic. In his analysis of the first claim he uses the phrase "we know" when referring to studies but then referring to exact same issue and discussion of the longitudinal effects of myocarditis says "too early to know full effects" IMO that would be a classic example of logical fallacy especially since he doesn't reference higher rates of myocarditis in unvaccinated youth that end up with Covid. Once again longitudinally too early to tell if there is significance but I see no problem with acknowledging the difference between acute and chronic in these opinions and he should have.

His analysis of the second claim was well. I do wish he would have tackled the topic question more head on what in the policy and why it ignores. I think it would have opened a some interesting discussion.

I am not going to even touch that third claim.

The analysis of the fourth claim I think we have to be mindful that the opinion of an individual should have no bearing on the uncovering of facts. However I think we probably all agree that cherry picking facts to fit a narrative is a live and well.

I really enjoy reading those articles. Thanks for sharing.

[Chico23231]

You know what really pisses me off, the fact everywhere I go I see mask on the ground, in the beach and water….

Seriously…how about care enough if you are gonna wear it, dispose of it properly. Was at a state park over the weekend, fuckin things were everywhere

[SunnySide]

Theres 2 types of people in this world .. assholes and people who dont litter. I fucking hate litterers.

nonniery - that was a good article.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Theres 2 types of people in this world .. assholes and people who dont litter. I fucking hate litterers.

nonniery - that was a good article.

Why can't I be both?

[SunnySide]

I didnt think the article was saying Joe Rogan and his 2 guests were right or it is important to hear Joe Rogans point of view.

This writer/doctor said 90% of what the said was bullshit

I thought the writer's point was to not stiffle discussions for 2 reasons ....

One, even if 90% is BS, if the 10% re myocarditist among healthy young from vax is a discussion worth having then it should be talked about and not thrown out with the bath water of the other 90% conspiracy BS

Two, good way to combat BS false info is to not censor it but to rebut it. Now it seems he thinks people will be objective and intellectually honest but if someone is an anti vaxxer and sees the Rogan podcast of these 2 whack jobs, no amount of clearly written logical rebuttal will be considered by the anti vaxxer.

Also by censoring you create publicity. Alice Cooper wrote a conservative activist a thank you letter bc he thought her push to have his song "schools out" censored made the song more popular.

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The article wasnt about whether Joe Rogan is right or important ... just that stifling discussion is generally bad. Some of the discussion may actually be worth having and the other crap can be rebutted if need be.

This whole "media is the enemy" thing seems so dumb and targeted for the most gullible of our country.

if you need to be told Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson have agendas ... youre a fucking moron. If you believe some yokel's anecdotal facebook story about how covid is fake or the vax is bad for your health ... while being moribly obese and smoking cigarettes .. I hope you choke on a dick some time soon.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

This whole "media is the enemy" thing seems so dumb and targeted for the most gullible of our country.

if you need to be told Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson have agendas ... youre a fucking moron. If you believe some yokel's anecdotal facebook story about how covid is fake or the vax is bad for your health ... while being moribly obese and smoking cigarettes .. I hope you choke on a dick some time soon.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I didnt think the article was saying Joe Rogan and his 2 guests were right or it is important to hear Joe Rogans point of view.

This writer/doctor said 90% of what the said was bullshit

I thought the writer's point was to not stiffle discussions for 2 reasons ....

One, even if 90% is BS, if the 10% re myocarditist among healthy young from vax is a discussion worth having then it should be talked about and not thrown out with the bath water of the other 90% conspiracy BS

Two, good way to combat BS false info is to not censor it but to rebut it. Now it seems he thinks people will be objective and intellectually honest but if someone is an anti vaxxer and sees the Rogan podcast of these 2 whack jobs, no amount of clearly written logical rebuttal will be considered by the anti vaxxer.

Also by censoring you create publicity. Alice Cooper wrote a conservative activist a thank you letter bc he thought her push to have his song "schools out" censored made the song more popular.

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The article wasnt about whether Joe Rogan is right or important ... just that stifling discussion is generally bad. Some of the discussion may actually be worth having and the other crap can be rebutted if need be.

This whole "media is the enemy" thing seems so dumb and targeted for the most gullible of our country.

if you need to be told Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson have agendas ... youre a fucking moron. If you believe some yokel's anecdotal facebook story about how covid is fake or the vax is bad for your health ... while being moribly obese and smoking cigarettes .. I hope you choke on a dick some time soon.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/18/10734...campers-either

Gorsuch didn't mask despite Sotomayor's COVID worries, leading her to telework

24 hours laters

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...rt-of-tensions

Sotomayor, Gorsuch issue statement denying tensions over masks

NPR flat out lying bullshit…enemy of the people

It’s like I can pull a fake news story every single day.

[SunnySide]

Only thing I want to hear re the SCOTUS is that justice Breyer is retiring leaving enough time for President Biden and Senate to confirm a justice before 2022. Rs are going to win the senate and house.

If the Justice RBG issue repeats itself and McConell holds a SCOTUS seat open for 2 years, I will be really disappointed.

[MTK]

Definitely don't agree with censoring Rogan. If anything it's entertaining how much of a moron he is at times.

Like here where he gets fact checked live yet can't admit he's wrong