Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?

[Pervis_Griffith]

Originally Posted by MTK

I think we're a long ways off from large gatherings like packed stadiums for sports or concerts. And with massive unemployment who's going to drop hundreds of dollars on a game?

It's May 28.

And this virus isn't as deadly as it was supposed to be when we took drastic actions to shut the world down. Positive tests are exploding, but deaths and hospitalizations are still declining.

Sure there will be some to scared to resume normal life. But most will.

There are 3 long months before the regular season starts.

Like I said ... time will tell.

[skinsfan69]

packed stadiums? probably not. but people are going to go and hopefully take the precautions they need to take. as time goes on the massive panic that the media has created will die down. it's already dying down.

[MTK]

Yeah a lot can definitely change in 3 months, like 100,000 dead, and that was with shutting everything down.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yeah a lot can definitely change in 3 months, like 100,000 dead, and that was with shutting everything down.

I know i am the resident doom and gloom / armageddon guy here, but even I think that we will never see another widespread lockdown like what we just endured. I think more likely will be hotspot cities will be quarantined IF there is another flare up. Even Dr. Fauci is now saying that it is not a "given" that we see a resurgance of the virus.

I also think that by next year at this time, Coronavirus has been replaced in the media with whatever else is the big talking point. There will be a risk, sure, but slowly and surely i feel like people are getting more confident by the day.

And that is also one way a pandemic ends, when the population decides that the loss of liberty / quality of life, etc. outweighs the risk of the virus. People at some point will "move on" so to speak and go back to living their every day lives again.

[Pervis_Griffith]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I know i am the resident doom and gloom / armageddon guy here, but even I think that we will never see another widespread lockdown like what we just endured. I think more likely will be hotspot cities will be quarantined IF there is another flare up. Even Dr. Fauci is now saying that it is not a "given" that we see a resurgance of the virus.

I also think that by next year at this time, Coronavirus has been replaced in the media with whatever else is the big talking point. There will be a risk, sure, but slowly and surely i feel like people are getting more confident by the day.

And that is also one way a pandemic ends, when the population decides that the loss of liberty / quality of life, etc. outweighs the risk of the virus. People at some point will "move on" so to speak and go back to living their every day lives again.

Exactly.

When all is said and done, this virus' mortality rates may be 3 times that as the flu. Which would mean that 99.7 per cent of those who get it, survive. People will easily decide that living life will outweigh the risks associated with this form of COVID.

It still sucks to have people die from this ... I lost an aunt and uncle to COVID 19. It's been brutal.

But 0.3% is a far cry from the 3 and 4% some models were predicting back in February/March.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

Exactly.

When all is said and done, this virus' mortality rates may be 3 times that as the flu. Which would mean that 99.7 per cent of those who get it, survive. People will easily decide that living life will outweigh the risks associated with this form of COVID.

It still sucks to have people die from this ... I lost an aunt and uncle to COVID 19. It's been brutal.

But 0.3% is a far cry from the 3 and 4% some models were predicting back in February/March.

I think at one point it was even higher than that. I seem to remember Dr. Fauci giving an initial prediction of 1 million U.S. deaths from it. But i can't remember if he was saying that might be the TOTAL death toll by the time we have a vaccine / effective treatment 2 years down the road or so.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think at one point it was even higher than that. I seem to remember Dr. Fauci giving an initial prediction of 1 million U.S. deaths from it. But i can't remember if he was saying that might be the TOTAL death toll by the time we have a vaccine / effective treatment 2 years down the road or so.

Has he been right on anything? I stopped listening to him a long time ago.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I know i am the resident doom and gloom / armageddon guy here, but even I think that we will never see another widespread lockdown like what we just endured. I think more likely will be hotspot cities will be quarantined IF there is another flare up. Even Dr. Fauci is now saying that it is not a "given" that we see a resurgance of the virus.

I also think that by next year at this time, Coronavirus has been replaced in the media with whatever else is the big talking point. There will be a risk, sure, but slowly and surely i feel like people are getting more confident by the day.

And that is also one way a pandemic ends, when the population decides that the loss of liberty / quality of life, etc. outweighs the risk of the virus. People at some point will "move on" so to speak and go back to living their every day lives again.

Maybe not from this virus, but long term the next one may not be as forgiving. Hopefully we're better prepared next time.

[Pervis_Griffith]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yeah a lot can definitely change in 3 months, like 100,000 dead, and that was with shutting everything down.

That won't happen between now and Aug 28.

Promise you.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

That won't happen between now and Aug 28.

Promise you.

I don't think so either. I just don't think we're going to see packed stadiums until next year at the earliest. Hope I'm wrong but I just don't see how we can get there so quickly. That would be an awfully quick turnaround to go from lockdown to stadiums full of people in 6 months without a vaccine or proven treatments. We'll see.

[SCRedskinsFan]

This virus is a long way from being done. For those that say that the fatality rate for this virus is something minuscule, I say do the math. 1.7 million cases, 100,000 dead in three months. There will not be packed stadiums until and unless there is an effective vaccine administered broadly to the population. At best that is months away and not likely this year.

I pray that I am wrong, I fear I am not...

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by SCRedskinsFan

This virus is a long way from being done. For those that say that the fatality rate for this virus is something minuscule, I say do the math. 1.7 million cases, 100,000 dead in three months. There will not be packed stadiums until and unless there is an effective vaccine administered broadly to the population. At best that is months away and not likely this year.

I pray that I am wrong, I fear I am not...

This is from the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

This says almost 3 million Americans die a year on average. I didn't even know it was that many people yearly. It's kind of staggering when you are like me and didn't know the actual statistics at first. Now granted, Coronavirus is adding to that total, but the truth is, if we continue at this pace on virus deaths, then that comes out to being FAR lower yearly deaths than even Cancer and Heart Disease.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

This is from the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

This says almost 3 million Americans die a year on average. I didn't even know it was that many people yearly. It's kind of staggering when you are like me and didn't know the actual statistics at first. Now granted, Coronavirus is adding to that total, but the truth is, if we continue at this pace on virus deaths, then that comes out to being FAR lower yearly deaths than even Cancer and Heart Disease.

Heart disease and cancer are the biggest killers in developed countries they are also chronic exposure diseases versus acute. It would have to be some serious bug to catch those.

[Chico23231]

Walt Disney Company is easily on par with the NFL as a business

The fact they are opening up in July is a good sign and I’m sure they their data to why is legit. They are not gonna open up without meticulously vetting every risk

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/media...rus/index.html


Should be interesting to watch, we all should be root for it to be a success...businesses like the NFL will def be seeing how they accommodate tens of thousands of people daily.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Walt Disney Company is easily on par with the NFL as a business

The fact they are opening up in July is a good sign and I’m sure they their data to why is legit. They are not gonna open up without meticulously vetting every risk

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/media...rus/index.html


Should be interesting to watch, we all should be root for it to be a success...businesses like the NFL will def be seeing how they accommodate tens of thousands of people daily.

Meh. Their model includes asking visitors and diners to sign a waiver releasing WDW from liability if they acquire COVID19 during their stay.

Their acceptance of the risk includes landing at least the majority of it in the laps of patrons. Which is the way the world should work, honestly.

But to characterize it as risk-free or well-vetted is a little cavalier. Like everybody, they're weighing the risks of opening vs the risks of not opening. They are determining that the risk to their financial health is greater than the risks of opening. But that doesn't mean all is clear. Take part at your own risk, and the risk is still considerable.

The NFL stadiums will face similar questions. And with most of the money coming from TV revenues I don't think they face the same downside as WDW does by staying closed. The NFL could still make a ton of money by playing in empty stadiums, with little of the risk to go along with it.