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Old 04-01-2020, 12:39 PM   #1
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Re: Chase Young or Three First Round Picks?

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70% effort on Cooper? We reportedly offered him $110 million over 5 years. More than any team in the league, including Dallas. So you're saying we should have offered $145 million? Really? Frankly, I think our offer was too much as it was, and I'm glad he didn't take it. I do like the idea of only offering big money to the very best out there in free agency, and not overpay for talent that isn't quite star quality. Otherwise, minor improvements to our roster with veteran role players with some upside at little cost or risk doesn't seem like a bad idea to me.

By the way, unused cap space can be carried forward. You are wrong about that.

I disagree with your apparent overall viewpoint that we should outbid every team on every player. Heck, we've overpaid for has-been players for years. That's been part of our problem under Bruce Allen. The "win the off-season" approach failed miserably. I, for one, am looking forward to seeing what Rivera and Smith can do, and I'm willing to give them the chance to do it.
I meant we put 70% effort into the negotiations, not offered 70% of what we should. If we'd sounded him out on what it would take to leave Dallas, we may not have got him anyway because of the tax situation (US tax system always confuses me, but probably no worse than ours&#128522. What I read makes it sound like we didn't come close enough for him to consider the offer. That's all.

And I'm definitely not saying we should outbid every team, but there were guys that at least on the face of it either didn't negotiate with or didn't do so seriously. I can only go by what I can see on the web, so maybe you guys know more, but aside from the bids on Cooper & Hooper, I've seen no sign of approaches to some of the names I mentioned. From what I saw and read about Littleton, for example, he would be a good fit. Did we even try?
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Old 04-01-2020, 12:53 PM   #2
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I meant we put 70% effort into the negotiations, not offered 70% of what we should. If we'd sounded him out on what it would take to leave Dallas, we may not have got him anyway because of the tax situation (US tax system always confuses me, but probably no worse than ours&#128522. What I read makes it sound like we didn't come close enough for him to consider the offer. That's all.

And I'm definitely not saying we should outbid every team, but there were guys that at least on the face of it either didn't negotiate with or didn't do so seriously. I can only go by what I can see on the web, so maybe you guys know more, but aside from the bids on Cooper & Hooper, I've seen no sign of approaches to some of the names I mentioned. From what I saw and read about Littleton, for example, he would be a good fit. Did we even try?
Again, Dallas offered $37mil more in guarantees. It probably wasn't a tough decision for Cooper to make.

I think perhaps they might like to see what they have in Hamilton, Bostic, Clemons, Foster, Holcomb, Anderson, Pierre-Louis, etc, before ponying up $32mil for another linebacker.
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Old 04-01-2020, 02:45 PM   #3
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(US tax system always confuses me, but probably no worse than ours&#128522.
Actually, they have simplified our system. We have a new 2-line tax return form:

Line 1: How much did you earn in 2019?

Line 2: Send it in.
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