Welcome to DC Chase Young!

[SunnySide]

Sheehan said on the radio that last year some DL guys were arguing w the coaching staff on hand moves and placement.

I dont remember hearing that last year.

You lose in ugly fashion, dirty laundry gets aired.

Chase has all the tools to be elite. Knee jerk reaction to label him a bust or should be traded while he still has value.

First sign of problems ... he sucks, lets trade him?

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Sheehan said on the radio that last year some DL guys were arguing w the coaching staff on hand moves and placement.

I dont remember hearing that last year.

You lose in ugly fashion, dirty laundry gets aired.

Chase has all the tools to be elite. Knee jerk reaction to label him a bust or should be traded while he still has value.

First sign of problems ... he sucks, lets trade him?

Even if CY was LT right now, we have so many holes that what we could get for him could help us; especially at QB1. If you don't have a legit QB1 in today's NFL you have a car with no engine.

cough***WATSON***cough

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Even if CY was LT right now, we have so many holes that what we could get for him could help us; especially at QB1. If you don't have a legit QB1 in today's NFL you have a car with no engine.

cough***WATSON***cough

This is correct. Problem is without a legit coaching staff Watson is the car with no engine again…..

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This is correct. Problem is without a legit coaching staff Watson is the car with no engine again…..

Watson balled out when Bill O'Brien dismantled the team the last season he played with the Texans.

Tampa Bay had all that talent and it took Brady to make them a playoff/SB contender.

This coaching staff has a lot to work on, but we'd be foolish to think that a QB like Watson would not make a difference. We'd be 2-1 with a player like Watson.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Watson balled out when Bill O'Brien dismantled the team the last season he played with the Texans.

Tampa Bay had all that talent and it took Brady to make them a playoff/SB contender.

This coaching staff has a lot to work on, but we'd be foolish to think that a QB like Watson would not make a difference. We'd be 2-1 with a player like Watson.

Yeah there is no doubt he would make our offense way better. TH is a nice story and I like him but he's not a legit QB1

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Watson balled out when Bill O'Brien dismantled the team the last season he played with the Texans.

Tampa Bay had all that talent and it took Brady to make them a playoff/SB contender.

This coaching staff has a lot to work on, but we'd be foolish to think that a QB like Watson would not make a difference. We'd be 2-1 with a player like Watson.

That is tough to say. Teams plan different. Watson isn’t making us better than SD or Buffalo. Not with these three bozos on our sideline. Im not opposed to Watson at all, but we are not a quarterback away as was once thought. Unfortunately. My main concern for this teams future is a new coaching staff. Period. You wanna bring in Watson with a competent staff I am all for it.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

zero sacks in 3 games, that's pathetic

Yeah, but as a team they have 6 sacks. More than the Packers, Colts, Dolphins, Steelers, Chargers, Ravens, Chiefs, Jaguars, Buccaneers (and Cowboys & Eagles who play tonight). It's a team game.

They just aren't playing complementary football right now. Can't put it all on the D-line or Chase.

[Chico23231]

Folks need to chill the fuck out on the Chase criticism. JDR and Ron need to change some things up.

I still see a lot depth issues in zone and handoffs. Josh Allen moving outside the pockets to extend plays was a big problem yesterday.

Fuller tho…he got destroyed by Beasley yesterday. This isn’t working out him in the slot.

[mredskins]

Watson or a franchise quality QB1 is the Keystone this franchise arch is missing.

Once that stone is placed then start building the other stones around it but to try to build the arch with out the keystone first nothing locks in or holds together.

[Chief X_Phackter]

The O-line has not been the problem. It's not even top 5 of the problems.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

The O-line has not been the problem. It's not even top 5 of the problems.

Sorry chief we are getting manhandled in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Sorry chief we are getting manhandled in the trenches on both sides of the ball.

That's not what the #s say.

QB pressures: tied for 10th in the league with 19 total QB pressures (worst is 33)
QB pressure %: 16th with 18.1% of drop backs ending in pressure (worst is 29%)
Sacks allowed: 1st with 3 allowed (worst is 15)

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

The O-line has not been the problem. It's not even top 5 of the problems.

Agreed. The O line wasnt getting a great push on runs yesterday but gave Heinike good pass pro.

He had time to step back, plant the foot, clean pocket .. he just wasnt getting the ball out on time and in rythym.

A lot of clutch, clutch, tuck and run or clutch, clutch, scramble take dump off to a guy just standing still bc his route ended 2 seconds ago.

Im waiting for some film breakdown to see if it was good coverage D or Heinike hesitant bc he doesnt know how to read/throw with anticipation ... or both.

Most of his throws and releases were after a guy made their break.

Its his 3rd start .. but it looks like backyard college intramural football where the most athletic guy is the QB who holds the ball then just tucks and runs 50% of the plays.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Agreed. The O line wasnt getting a great push on runs yesterday but gave Heinike good pass pro.

He had time to step back, plant the foot, clean pocket .. he just wasnt getting the ball out on time and in rythym.

A lot of clutch, clutch, tuck and run or clutch, clutch, scramble take dump off to a guy just standing still bc his route ended 2 seconds ago.

Im waiting for some film breakdown to see if it was good coverage D or Heinike hesitant bc he doesnt know how to read/throw with anticipation ... or both.

Most of his throws and releases were after a guy made their break.

Its his 3rd start .. but it looks like backyard college intramural football where the most athletic guy is the QB who holds the ball then just tucks and runs 50% of the plays.

Yep, he's not pressured all that much, yet he scrambles more than every other QB besides Daniel Jones and Lamar Jackson.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Agreed. The O line wasnt getting a great push on runs yesterday but gave Heinike good pass pro.

He had time to step back, plant the foot, clean pocket .. he just wasnt getting the ball out on time and in rythym.

A lot of clutch, clutch, tuck and run or clutch, clutch, scramble take dump off to a guy just standing still bc his route ended 2 seconds ago.

Im waiting for some film breakdown to see if it was good coverage D or Heinike hesitant bc he doesnt know how to read/throw with anticipation ... or both.

Most of his throws and releases were after a guy made their break.

Its his 3rd start .. but it looks like backyard college intramural football where the most athletic guy is the QB who holds the ball then just tucks and runs 50% of the plays.

JP said it best, TH has been getting lucky with a lot of his passes for a while now and it finally caught up to him.

I don't know if this is on Scott or TH, but I feel like they are always looking for the deep pass. We don't need a deep bomb on every play and TH is not Mahommes. In a game where we needed to control the clock and keep the Bills offense on the sidelines, that didn't happen.

I still think we have the talent on offense to focus on running the ball, short and screen passes to allow us to control the clock and keep the opponent's offense off the field.