The Redskins 2020 draft class

[OnceWeWereKings]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Rivera is hinting that they look at this year as being a wash. Too many holes to fill.

This is the only part I kind of disagree with. Only because Rivera was quoted right after signing saying that he though he had enough talent on the roster to win now.
I domt have the link for reference, but it was a keim article on espn.com. I think that's why they didnt make a huge splash. I agree with everything else you said there, though. A few stop gaps that can produce after cuts may well be exactly what hes looking for feeling we are closer than our record indicated.

[Pervis_Griffith]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

This is the only part I kind of disagree with. Only because Rivera was quoted right after signing saying that he though he had enough talent on the roster to win now.
I domt have the link for reference, but it was a keim article on espn.com. I think that's why they didnt make a huge splash. I agree with everything else you said there, though. A few stop gaps that can produce after cuts may well be exactly what hes looking for feeling we are closer than our record indicated.

We could be better than our record indicates.

A very good defense will keep you in every game. And with JDR (and RR) with the talent we've amassed on that line, you'd expect they'd see some real potential there.

If we have any progress on O with DH ... who knows what could happen.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

We could be better than our record indicates.

A very good defense will keep you in every game. And with JDR (and RR) with the talent we've amassed on that line, you'd expect they'd see some real potential there.

If we have any progress on O with DH ... who knows what could happen.

I’ve been saying playoffs and I’ll stick to it, this team is better than people think.

[Pervis_Griffith]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I’ve been saying playoffs and I’ll stick to it, this team is better than people think.

And it's not like the Giants, Iggles, or Cowuhboys (as Jerry Jones calls them) are the Chiefs.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

And it's not like the Giants, Iggles, or Cowuhboys (as Jerry Jones calls them) are the Chiefs.

But Jerry, and all the sports media personalities on his payroll, think they are! A Patrick Maholmes, Dak Prescott is not.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

But Jerry, and all the sports media personalities on his payroll, think they are! A Patrick Maholmes, Dak Prescott is not.

True, but he has a lot of talent around him and he can play. The real question in this case is whether or not Dak is the right choice to lead the Cowboys to another championship. We already know he is going to be overpaid. That's the way it is in today's NFL.

As for the Cowboys team, there has been a sea change in Dallas. Now the Dallas offense is a freakin' monster but he defense is suspect, IMO. To beat them, teams are going to need a strong defense and then they will still need to put up a lot of points to beat the Cowboys.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

True, but he has a lot of talent around him and he can play. The real question in this case is whether or not Dak is the right choice to lead the Cowboys to another championship. We already know he is going to be overpaid. That's the way it is in today's NFL.

As for the Cowboys team, there has been a sea change in Dallas. Now the Dallas offense is a freakin' monster but he defense is suspect, IMO. To beat them, teams are going to need a strong defense and then they will still need to put up a lot of points to beat the Cowboys.

Or run alot against them to prevent the Cowboys offense from being on the field too much.

[PorkSkins]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I’ve been saying playoffs and I’ll stick to it, this team is better than people think.

I'm not sure about the "playoffs" scenario, but I do think this team will be better than many think.

The team last season, IMO, had tanked it early. I recall speaking with a Dolphins fan after we beat 'em and he was saying (paraphrased), "We ('Fins fans, fans of the NFL and people around the league) all know the Dolphins are tanking.... What's the Redskins' problem?"

I replied confidently by saying, "Just because it's not being mentioned by anyone doesn't mean it's not happening. But the Redskins, IMO, are also tanking. I've watched enough games to know better and my eyes rarely ever tell lies."

In the end, the Dolphins were trying to win, but I truly believe we were tanking it last season. If not early in the season; it sure as hell looked like it was happening near the midway point of last season.

I'd sure as heck would love to be in the playoffs, but I'm gonna hold off on such talk. But I'm in agreement with you in that this team will be better than last season's team. I'm not talking about one, two or even three games better. I'm referring to several games better. I'll go with 7 or 8 wins for now.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I’ve been saying playoffs and I’ll stick to it, this team is better than people think.

I dont know man, that is a loaded stance with so many variables. Is Haskins the guy? Will Guice stay healthy? Will McClaurin take a step back? Who is our Tight end? Is our O line capable? Is our secondary capable? Is Payne gonna bounce back? Is our mlb group decent? That is a whole lotta ifs. Id say we need at least 4-5 of those 8 questions do be a definitive yes for us to even sniff the playoffs. Namely Haskins and the O line. If those two areas crumble we are screwed.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by punch it in

I dont know man, that is a loaded stance with so many variables.

Is Haskins the guy? YES

Will Guice stay healthy? NO, but Antonio Gibson will.

Will McClaurin take a step back? NO, he'll be even better.

Who is our Tight end? I don't know but he might be on the team already because ST's offense uses the TE in creative ways.

Is our O line capable? Not yet but we'll add a vet LT and Charles will start his career at RT, leaving only LG as a question.

Is our secondary capable? I think it can be.

Is Payne gonna bounce back? He'll be fine. The new system suits him well.

Is our mlb group decent? You got me on that one.

That is a whole lotta ifs. Id say we need at least 4-5 of those 8 questions do be a definitive yes for us to even sniff the playoffs. Namely Haskins and the O line. If those two areas crumble we are screwed.

Bottom line, I think we'll be better. How much better? I have no idea but I can't envision us making the playoffs.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Bottom line, I think we'll be better. How much better? I have no idea but I can't envision us making the playoffs.

I think we will be better too. But 4-12 is better lol. Not a high bar there. If all those questions pan out in a positive way, and injuries aren’t a huge issue again than we make the playoffs. I could also see us with a top 5 pick again next year. Guess that’s why they play the game...we hope

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Bottom line, I think we'll be better. How much better? I have no idea but I can't envision us making the playoffs.

The only way this team makes the playoffs is if the NFC is garbage and I just don't see that happening. I think the team will be better than 2019 of course but I'd say 6-7 wins is about right

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

The only way this team makes the playoffs is if the NFC is garbage and I just don't see that happening. I think the team will be better than 2019 of course but I'd say 6-7 wins is about right

I look at our best chances as being the NFC East champs. The 4 teams all play the NFC West and the AFC North. For all 4 teams that is at best a 4-4 split, No NFC East team is beating more than 1 of the following: SF, Balt, Arizona, Seattle, Pittsburgh.

You factor in our odd two - Detroit and Carolina
vs, GB/NO, Atl/Minn, Chi/TB
and with any reasonable improvement, we come out ahead on those two games.

So you are left with the 6 division games.
Philly week 1 is awful but then we get giants, dallas, bye giants.

That will be the critical stretch for division chances.

Bottom line for me is that we need to see a lot of growth against the division opponents this year, and I expect RR to do that.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Bottom line, I think we'll be better. How much better? I have no idea but I can't envision us making the playoffs.

I'm with you on most answers.
If we do sign a stop gap vet LT à la Donald Penn, I'm fine with our line. Wes Martin at LG looks good to me.

Not sold on TE but I think it's one position you can do one season with a subpar TE group.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I'm with you on most answers.

If we do sign a stop gap vet LT à la Donald Penn, I'm fine with our line. Wes Martin at LG looks good to me.



Not sold on TE but I think it's one position you can do one season with a subpar TE group.

Although if you have a quarterback who isn’t quite there yet, a sub par line, and say a rb that is oft injured TE becomes ultra important.
He can become not only key in blocking schemes but a safety valve for a quarterback who is under duress.