When is Enough ,Enough?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Thanks I’ll look through it. A couple things off the bat strike me as kinda off, especially if you are gonna dive into mental health and emotional issues...at the same time blame police And the justice system because they are not equipped. Look at root cause of why there is these issues. It’s like taking kids to school and acting like they are the baby sitter...the expectation they should need to deal with it is incorrect. Plus simply saying black people have more of these issues...not sure on that.

Recidivism rates is always a hot topic because that’s the key to curbing...but I’ll look at what you sent.

As someone who worked in juvenile justice, I did see emotional issues and resources were abundant to address these on many levels, a lot of time people don’t use them when there were free. You know what the driver is for juvenile crime and justice? Bad fucking parents period. I worked in a mostly white rural county and I worked in a major diverse city. Fact check: true. Substance abuse and mental issue distance second and third.

I agree about training always...but with the policing culture there needs to be active conversations about identifying bad police. Whistle blower protection through chain of command, review of all injuries suspects receive in police contact, etc

Bad parenting is a major issue. I work in a high school so I know what you mean. The amount of resources we are spending on social and emotional development increases every year. Ideally I would like to see those resources channeled towards the elementary schools where we can address behavior and societal norms at an early age (a social worker and behavior interventionist at every elementary school) and thus decrease lost time in the classroom due to management issues at the high school level. Ideally parents would be the driving force.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Bad parenting is a major issue. I work in a high school so I know what you mean. The amount of resources we are spending on social and emotional development increases every year. Ideally I would like to see those resources channeled towards the elementary schools where we can address behavior and societal norms at an early age (a social worker and behavior interventionist at every elementary school) and thus decrease lost time in the classroom due to management issues at the high school level. Ideally parents would be the driving force.

Unfortunately some kids need an ass whipping from time to time, and that is considered child abuse now. I think replacing the belt with pills has led to issues.

I can remember being a kid and the fear of the belt kept me from smoking, petty theft, playing with matches, etc. Where I went to elementary school all the parents in the neighborhood stuck together. Even the ice cream man would rat a kid out. One time a couple friends of mine were trying cigarettes for the first time in a construction project long before they fenced them in.
They were spied a mile away by the guy who drove Helms Bakery truck. That was a long since defunct company that delivered baked goods door to door in SoCal. He ratted one kid out to the parents and he squealed on the other two. They all ended up with sore butts. The fear of that was why I didn't go with them.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Unfortunately some kids need an ass whipping from time to time, and that is considered child abuse now. I think replacing the belt with pills has led to issues.

I can remember being a kid and the fear of the belt kept me from smoking, petty theft, playing with matches, etc. Where I went to elementary school all the parents in the neighborhood stuck together. Even the ice cream man would rat a kid out. One time a couple friends of mine were trying cigarettes for the first time in a construction project long before they fenced them in.
They were spied a mile away by the guy who drove Helms Bakery truck. That was a long since defunct company that delivered baked goods door to door in SoCal. He ratted one kid out to the parents and he squealed on the other two. They all ended up with sore butts. The fear of that was why I didn't go with them.

I think if we went back to that way now, most people wouldn't know when to draw the line on how much of a beating to give / too severe, etc..

Some of my grandma's siblings had permanent scarring from being whipped with switches / extension cords, etc..

My dad's step father was abusive and my dad has a divot in his shoulder where a big chunk of meat just came out from being beaten. He has scars on the back of his legs too.

And i want to believe that their parents didn't set out on purpose to savagely beat them, but i'm sure along the way it just happened and in the heat of the moment they could not stop themselves until after major harm was inflicted.

That's why i think it's probably good that parents aren't still beating / whipping their children like back in the old days.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I think if we went back to that way now, most people wouldn't know when to draw the line on how much of a beating to give / too severe, etc..

Some of my grandma's siblings had permanent scarring from being whipped with switches / extension cords, etc..

My dad's step father was abusive and my dad has a divot in his shoulder where a big chunk of meat just came out from being beaten. He has scars on the back of his legs too.

And i want to believe that their parents didn't set out on purpose to savagely beat them, but i'm sure along the way it just happened and in the heat of the moment they could not stop themselves until after major harm was inflicted.

That's why i think it's probably good that parents aren't still beating / whipping their children like back in the old days.

I am against abuse as I was abused also. A whack in the butt with a paddle will suffice. I knew many a kid where one swat one time was all they needed.