When is Enough ,Enough?

[Buffalo Bob]

Nightline pretty much made out George Foster to be quite the outstanding human being.

From the NY Post:

Floyd had landed five years behind bars in 2009 for an assault and robbery two years earlier, and before that, had been convicted of charges ranging from theft with a firearm to drugs, the Daily Mail reported.

Yet the media makes him out to be a choir boy.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Nightline pretty much made out George Foster to be quite the outstanding human being.

From the NY Post:

Floyd had landed five years behind bars in 2009 for an assault and robbery two years earlier, and before that, had been convicted of charges ranging from theft with a firearm to drugs, the Daily Mail reported.

Yet the media makes him out to be a choir boy.

Seems you decided to go full moron in this thread. So it seems you decided this man should die is that it,you find the actions of the Police acceptable?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Nightline pretty much made out George Foster to be quite the outstanding human being.

From the NY Post:

Floyd had landed five years behind bars in 2009 for an assault and robbery two years earlier, and before that, had been convicted of charges ranging from theft with a firearm to drugs, the Daily Mail reported.

Yet the media makes him out to be a choir boy.

Nightline and the NY Post are part of the media last I checked.

Regardless of his past, did he deserve to die?

If your answer is no why bring this up?

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by MTK

Nightline and the NY Post are part of the media last I checked.

Regardless of his past, did he deserve to die?

If your answer is no why bring this up?

He did not deserve to die, all of the cops involved deserve to be punished. Chauvin deserves 2nd degree murder charges as far as I am concerned, the others need the highest charges they can legally be hit with.

My problem with not bringing up Floyd's criminal past and painting him as a saint provides a false narrative that his life style did not contribute to negative interactions with the police. The media only telling one side of the story does more harm, it puts a fear of police, that doesn't need to be there, into law abiding citizens that could cause them to panic when interacting with law enforcement.

I have had many interactions with police. I would call most of it harassment.
It first started with driving what boiled down to a street legal Nascar in college. They would think I didn't see them riding in my blind spot waiting for me to go on a speed run. I once had a cop follow me for 9 straight right hand turns and I did nothing wrong. Fast forward a couple years I lived in the So Cal mountains. My street was mostly vacation homes, I was the only full time resident. Ever hear of Les Richter? I used to have poker parties, even though he was way down the street from me and no one came near his house on weekends he would call the cops on me making up lies. I stayed away from cops for decades till I took multiple trips cross country. Out of state plates on Suvs attract cops like flies in drug corridors. I got pulled over almost a dozen times for bs excuses and never written a ticket. I was being PROFILED and I am white.

I would estimate I have interacted with cops 3 dozen times or so at least, probably a lot more as those mountain cops hated me. After the first visit I became as uncooperative as I could without going to jail. Richter was wealthy and they probably were catering to him. The first time he called saying people were in the front yard breaking bottles in the street, yet there was no glass to be found.

The morale of the story, pretty much every interaction I had with police went as I dictated, cooperative with hands on the steering wheel had the drug corridor ones last 90 seconds. In college I would just pull over and stop when they started tailing me. I still keep my hands in sight but called them every name in the book. That would get them to go over my car with a fine tooth comb looking for anything they could ticket me on. Sometimes I would be detained for 15 minutes and let go, again no ticket.

Why doesn't the media constantly educate people on how to interact with police to insure the best chances of avoiding a negative outcome? Even the worst cops aren't going around killing people for signing too loud in church. The media is escalating people's fear of police, that does nothing but harm.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

The morale of the story, pretty much every interaction I had with police went as I dictated, cooperative with hands on the steering wheel had the drug corridor ones last 90 seconds. In college I would just pull over and stop when they started tailing me. I still keep my hands in sight but called them every name in the book. That would get them to go over my car with a fine tooth comb looking for anything they could ticket me on. Sometimes I would be detained for 15 minutes and let go, again no ticket.

Bob -- your whole post is a shining example of white privilege. For the most part, being white helps tremendously. Or being good looking etc. its not 100% of the time, or even 50% of the time .. but being white in this country has huge advantages. So does being good looking. or dressing professional.

I got pulled over by border patrol because apparently me and a buddy had crossed into mexico some how and were crossing back into the US. I didnt even know we left the US, we were driving on some basically dirt roads. It was a little rinky dinky shack of a border stop out in the middle of nowhere. They find a bunch of weed, detain us for a bit ... me and my buddy are in cells but talking polite with the 2 white officers (they were the only ones there), they were about the same age as us, kinda joking around even though i imagine we could be facing some serious federal charges.

after about an hour ... those 2 white mid 20s officers lets us (2 white mid 20s) go saying hurry up before their supervisor gets there and theyd be forced to charge us.

white privilege.

I have countless stories of white cops letting my white ass go and it wasnt for something nominal like speeding. of course, ive been arrested to. got elbowed by an officer while i was handcuffed to a table etc ... but i know i enjoy the benefits of white privilege almost every day, in things so small and big.

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bottom line - Bob what works for you or me ... doesnt work nearly as often for a black person.

period.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Bob -- your whole post is a shining example of white privilege. For the most part, being white helps tremendously. Or being good looking etc. its not 100% of the time, or even 50% of the time .. but being white in this country has huge advantages. So does being good looking. or dressing professional.

The above isn't always true. I have never in my life pulled over to help an attractive female motorist who was broke down, back in the pre cell phone days.

I would stop for little old ladies. The last stranded motorists I helped were a couple old black guys broke down in front of the bank I was using last summer. Obvious blown head gasket, I gave them a ride 25 miles south and refused gas money.

They said they had been trying to catch a lift for two hours. If they looked like Halle Berry instead of Fred Sanford and Grady they would had dudes fighting over giving them a ride in minutes.

Your above statement is 99% correct unless said attractive person runs across a weirdo like me. I think I actually treat them worse. I was pretty popular in High School as any guy on the football team was and found my self dating the plain Jane types.