When is Enough ,Enough?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yeah I tend to believe headshots are intentional. Cops know what they're doing with a gun.

Look we are all mad and demand change for the injustice over the muder of George Floyd. But we need to stop with the cop hate, it’s a bit much. They are not using these tactics on peaceful protest. A lot of the protest have been violent with attacks on police as well as looting and rioting...it will not be tolerated...it’s that simple. Peaceful protest or run the risk of rubber bullets.

I see a lot of folks in the pictures wearing them like a lil badge of courage...they def gonna be showing them off to friends.

[Buffalo Bob]

Without even doing any research, my knowledge of ballistics from being a life long gun owner and being able to shoot right off my back porch tells me rubber bullets are probably less accurate than a bullet fired from a smooth bore pre civil war muzzle loading rifle. As trained with other weapons cops are aiming for center mass, bullet paths from rubber bullets are erratic and can end up in a very wide pattern.

Of course cop hating liberals that would not know a 9mm from a pellet pistol know more about ballistics than I do. They believe cops can easily hit someone in the eye on purpose with a rubber bullet, probably because that is what the liberal media leads them to believe.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Without even doing any research, my knowledge of ballistics from being a life long gun owner and being able to shoot right off my back porch tells me rubber bullets are probably less accurate than a bullet fired from a smooth bore pre civil war muzzle loading rifle. As trained with other weapons cops are aiming for center mass, bullet paths from rubber bullets are erratic and can end up in a very wide pattern.

Of course cop hating liberals that would not know a 9mm from a pellet pistol know more about ballistics than I do. They believe cops can easily hit someone in the eye on purpose with a rubber bullet, probably because that is what the liberal media leads them to believe.

Excellent point Bob.

I agree with you.

If rubber bullets are so erratic and inaccurate that it is forseeable and likely that they will cause headshots and blindness and brain bleeding and loss of testicles, despite aiming for center mass .... then they should not be used.

On people standing ... during the daytime .. with their hands up.

Or journalists clearly identifying themselves as press.

This is America, not Iran or China.

Good point Bob.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Excellent point Bob.

I agree with you.

If rubber bullets are so erratic and inaccurate that it is forseeable and likely that they will cause headshots and blindness and brain bleeding and loss of testicles, despite aiming for center mass .... then they should not be used.

On people standing ... during the daytime .. with their hands up.

Or journalists clearly identifying themselves as press.

This is America, not Iran or China.

Good point Bob.

So what is your plan for dispersing crowds before things get out of hand?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Without even doing any research, my knowledge of ballistics from being a life long gun owner and being able to shoot right off my back porch tells me rubber bullets are probably less accurate than a bullet fired from a smooth bore pre civil war muzzle loading rifle. As trained with other weapons cops are aiming for center mass, bullet paths from rubber bullets are erratic and can end up in a very wide pattern.

Of course cop hating liberals that would not know a 9mm from a pellet pistol know more about ballistics than I do. They believe cops can easily hit someone in the eye on purpose with a rubber bullet, probably because that is what the liberal media leads them to believe.

You've got some good info here too bad it's ruined by being an asshole. I didn't realize how inaccuarate they are... given the lack of accuracy I'd say that creates more problems potentially with possibly hitting innocent bystanders or... eyeballs.

The lethal history of rubber bullets—and why they should never be used on peaceful protesters

From the article:

With erratic flight, you have two problems. First, the bullet could hit anywhere on the target’s body (it could also hit anyone standing near the intended target, anywhere on their body). Whereas the torso and legs are considered the safest areas to strike, bullets that fly up toward the neck or face can easily kill.

Michele Heisler is the medical director of Physicians for Human Rights and a professor of internal medicine and public health at the University of Michigan. She has been on the ground in Turkey to examine people who have been shot with less-lethal munitions. Heisler calls these scenes “horrific.” She has seen how even well-placed, perfectly executed shots still cause blunt trauma, which can do more than bruise or even break a bone: She’s witnessed these rounds do internal damage to organs like the lungs and heart and injure nerve bundles in limbs, necessitating amputation.

“I don’t know why, they do seem to directly hit people’s eyes [a lot]. It hits your eye and ruptures the eyeball, or the globe . . . basically, your eyeball explodes,” she says. But the terrifying truth is that someone losing their sight to a less-lethal round may have actually gotten lucky. “The eye is a very open entry point to the brain,” she adds, which is a primary route for these less-lethal rounds to kill.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by MTK

You've got some good info here too bad it's ruined by being an asshole.

Of course I am an asshole in your eyes because I don't think exactly like you do. I thought you come from the party of "tolerance?" You seem to only tolerate those that think like you do, you constantly condescend toward people with a difference of opinion, even though you are constantly proved wrong in your thinking. This one is a slam dunk, you thought sharpshooter cops could purposely shoot people's eyes out with rubber bullets. You look like a fool to anyone but yourself, but keep putting me down because we have a difference of opinion.

Now you have resorted to name calling, another page from the liberal playbook.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Of course I am an asshole in your eyes because I don't think exactly like you do. I thought you come from the party of "tolerance?" You seem to only tolerate those that think like you do, you constantly condescend toward people with a difference of opinion, even though you are constantly proved wrong in your thinking. This one is a slam dunk, you thought sharpshooter cops could purposely shoot people's eyes out with rubber bullets. You look like a fool to anyone but yourself, but keep putting me down because we have a difference of opinion.

Now you have resorted to name calling, another page from the liberal playbook.

lol you’re constantly blasting and putting down liberals and saying dumb shit like liberals hate cops and love criminals, might want to check your tone in that last message about the rubber bullets you definitely were going full asshole

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by MTK

lol you’re constantly blasting and putting down liberals and saying dumb shit like liberals hate cops and love criminals, might want to check your tone in that last message about the rubber bullets you definitely were going full asshole

Just keep running people that don't think like you into the ground. Typical liberal behavior, just keep up with the name calling. I only react to what I see. Liberals here side with criminals as a default, even a blind man can see that. It is your sand box and you set the tone. Another liberal cesspool. No one here agrees with what the police did to George Floyd, but only a blind liberal will believe he did not have a hand in his tragic end. As for "rubber bullets" you are the person who knows ZERO about ballistics thinking cops were intentionally shooting people's eyes out with them. Who is the A-hole here? Someone who knows the truth or someone who eats the spoon fed crap their party feeds them?