Why Hasn't Anyone Talked About-A Possible Cancellation?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Im curious about this, Ive seen this said before but no real articles to cite to. What are you basing this on?

This is only for Washington State (below) but I have a hard time believing someone who is shot and killed is counted as a COVID death. What I read, the CDC only considers the death certificate cited cause of death.

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State officials also compare death certificates to disease surveillance data, to identify those who had Covid-19 but died of an unrelated cause, like a gunshot wound. Washington has removed such deaths.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eath-toll.html

I know for a fact from a leadership position at a hospital, if die from anything and they have covid antibodies, not even symptoms, it’s goes on the Covid count. Its dishonest, but there is financial incentive behind it from that same person.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I know for a fact from a leadership position at a hospital, if die from anything and they have covid antibodies, not even symptoms, it’s goes on the Covid count. Its dishonest, but there is financial incentive behind it from that same person.

From everything I read, under that circumstance it may go on the provisional count but then be excluded after review and not counted towards CDC official tally.

If someone dies from a stabbing but tests positive post mortem ... it absolutely is not counted towards the CDC official count.

You could argue the gray area of first line cause of death "heart failure"
second line "due to COVID"

^^ that would be counted as covid related bc the person with the pre-existing condition would not have died but for the COVID aggravating a pre-existing condition.

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Are we seriously arguing that the CDC and all the other medical experts saying there are 120k covid deaths are wrong?

or that the mortality rate is the same as the flu?

or masks dont help?

or the stay at home didnt help?

Im gonna take a break ... i find myself posting/refuting to much on here

if you die in a car accident, it is absolutely not counted in CDC's official tally of covid deaths. i need to walk away

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

From everything I read, under that circumstance it may go on the provisional count but then be excluded after review and not counted towards CDC official tally.

If someone dies from a stabbing but tests positive post mortem ... it absolutely is not counted towards the CDC official count.

You could argue the gray area of first line cause of death "heart failure"
second line "due to COVID"

^^ that would be counted as covid related bc the person with the pre-existing condition would not have died but for the COVID aggravating a pre-existing condition.

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Are we seriously arguing that the CDC and all the other medical experts saying there are 120k covid deaths are wrong?

or that the mortality rate is the same as the flu?

or masks dont help?

or the stay at home didnt help?

Im gonna take a break ... i find myself posting/refuting to much on here

if you die in a car accident, it is absolutely not counted in CDC's official tally of covid deaths. i need to walk away

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...cNWZVckYq5BzdE

The CDC is counting confirmed and presumptive cases to the death toll. They're combining pneumonia, influenza, and COVID-19 to booster the death tolls. I'm definitely saying those 120k deaths are wrong. The mortality rate could very well be the same as the flu. We just don't know, but we should just accept that it's higher than the flu based on incomplete or no information at all. Of course, the masks are going to limit the spread to an extent. But that is not going to completely stop the virus from spreading. You're a damn fool if you think it will. People are getting infected at home. The only thing these lockdowns are accomplishing is destroying the US economy.

Originally Posted by MTK

Full capacity crowds or limited

I say go full capacity crowds, but I doubt if the NFL would do that. Probably go limited crowds until we get a vaccine which I'm not to take.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I know for a fact from a leadership position at a hospital, if die from anything and they have covid antibodies, not even symptoms, it’s goes on the Covid count. Its dishonest, but there is financial incentive behind it from that same person.

This is also 100% true. Many people have already came out and stated this.