Skins getting heat again over name issue

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Dlyne8r

And no one says "good morning whitey" or "how can I help you cracker." Jeeze people get a grip. No one greets people in that manner.

If that is the case then why isn't " the mob" going after the Blackhawks? What about the Chiefs? No one says.. "good morning Blackjawk"..

Really hope we don't change the name. Snyder can get other sponsors. The media pressure will die down like it always does.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If that is the case then why isn't " the mob" going after the Blackhawks? What about the Chiefs? No one says.. "good morning Blackjawk"..



Really hope we don't change the name. Snyder can get other sponsors. The media pressure will die down like it always does.

Those are not derogatory names. It isn’t like Native Americans just do not want to be associated with sports. Lol. Clearly there is a difference between Redskin and Chief. It is like N word vs zulu warrior.

[Number44]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Clearly there is a difference between Redskin and Chief.

Yes, there is. "Chief" is a term that is actually used in a derogatory way by racists. "Redskin," not so much. I am 66 years old and have never heard anyone use the term 'redskin" as a racial slur. Not once. Chief? Yes, I've heard that used as a racial slur.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Number44

Yes, there is. "Chief" is a term that is actually used in a derogatory way by racists. "Redskin," not so much. I am 66 years old and have never heard anyone use the term 'redskin" as a racial slur. Not once. Chief? Yes, I've heard that used as a racial slur.

Really chief? Lol. Again just because you have never heard redskin used as a derogatory name doesn’t mean it wasn’t. And how in the hell is chief used in a derogatory way? I mean come on man. Redskin is cool chief is racist? U could be 166 and i would call bullshit on that.
Only you could make this political. Lol. If Trump tweeted change the name tomorrow morning you would be farting epiphanies.

[Number44]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Really chief? Lol. Again just because you have never heard redskin used as a derogatory name doesn’t mean it wasn’t. And how in the hell is chief used in a derogatory way? I mean come on man. Redskin is cool chief is racist? U could be 166 and i would call bullshit on that.
Only you could make this political. Lol. If Trump tweeted change the name tomorrow morning you would be farting epiphanies.

Yes, chief is used as a derogatory slur. In fact, that is the only term I have ever heard used in a derogatory manner towards a Native American in real life. Hard to figure where you have been all your life if you haven't heard the term "chief" used in a sarcastic and belittling manner. In old movies you would hear "savages", but I've never heard that in real life. In more recent movies, it's "chief." I am not a Trump supporter. Where on earth did you get that? Good grief, I'm not being political at all. I am sharing what I have witnessed. So, are you claiming that you have actually heard someone derogatorily refer to a Native American as a redskin? Really? I would definitely call bs on that. Go ahead and pretend that I'm being political again. That seems to be your schtick.

[coggs]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If that is the case then why isn't " the mob" going after the Blackhawks? What about the Chiefs? No one says.. "good morning Blackjawk"..

Really hope we don't change the name. Snyder can get other sponsors. The media pressure will die down like it always does.

There actually are some groups that have an issue with the Blackhawks logo, but not necessarily the name. Yes, the team was named after the squad the original owner was a member of in WWI. Yes, the squad was named after a Native American Chief whose name was "Black Hawk". However, the logo for the military squad is not an image of Chief Black Hawk. IIRC, the Blackhawks (hockey team) original logo was a sketch of Chief Black Hawk. Difference with them, is they can simply change the logo to literally a black hawk as in black in color bird of prey. Which, in time, I think will happen. The Indians have retired Chief Wahoo. Would not be surprised if the Braves are next. They may keep the name, but the tomahawk will eventually be gone.

Not sure I agree about getting other sponsors. If Fed Ex pulls their name, they are going to have a hard time finding a corporation with the money to buy the naming rights.

[SFREDSKIN]

Fuck these pc assholes!! If the Redskins change their name I say call them either “The Nation” representing all Native American Nations and keep the logo or the Washington Americans since the NA are the real Americans here, plus the Cowboys won’t be using America’s team.

[coggs]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Fuck these pc assholes!! If the Redskins change their name I say call them either “The Nation” representing all Native American Nations and keep the logo or the Washington Americans since the NA are the real Americans here, plus the Cowboys won’t be using America’s team.

Not a bad idea. "Washington Americans" and the logo can be something like Mt Rushmore with just pictures of people of every race. 1 Caucasian, 1 African American, 1 Native American, 1 Latino, 1 Asian, 1 Middle Eastern, 1 South Asian (Not sure of the correct term, think those from India, Pakistan, etc) and so forth. Of course, then some will complain that the Caucasian "looks too Italian" or "too Irish" and does not represent ALL caucasians.