Come up with a new name for the Redskins

[skinsfanmdc]

Snyder needs to pick a name he wants. Rivera won't be in Washington years and years from now.

[oldfan]

I have been a Washington football fan since 1945 when Turk Edwards gave me an autographed football. He became the head coach in 1946. To me, it doesn't really matter what the team name is. It will still always be the Redskins in my mind.

[skinsfaninok]

Fred Smoot also thinks "Warriors" is the way to go but also likes Redtails and Redhawks

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Fred Smoot also thinks "Warriors" is the way to go but also likes Redtails and Redhawks

Welcome back!

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Welcome back!

Been around a little but just got back from Florida for the last week.

2 week Quarantine now...

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Fred Smoot also thinks "Warriors" is the way to go but also likes Redtails and Redhawks

So when I hear Red Hawk or Red Tail...seems like a cheap take on the Redskins. Like for me...it needs to be something completely new, not a knock off brand of Redskins.

That’s just me...Warriors just makes too much sense

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So when I hear Red Hawk or Red Tail...seems like a cheap take on the Redskins. Like for me...it needs to be something completely new, not a knock off brand of Redskins.



That’s just me...Warriors just makes too much sense

If they go to warriors I'd say Dan keeps logo and colors. It would be damn near Impossible to start from scratch by Training camp. Just go Warriors, HTTW isn't bad

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[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If they go to warriors I'd say Dan keeps logo and colors. It would be damn near Impossible to start from scratch by Training camp. Just go Warriors, HTTW isn't bad

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That's the problem with Warriors, I just don't see the Native American tribes that have been bitching about the name for 20 years being ok with continued use of the logo. Any logo really, it doesn't matter if it's the main logo, or the spear logo, anything connected to Native Americans (without the specific endorsement of a specific tribe) would not fly.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by mooby

That's the problem with Warriors, I just don't see the Native American tribes that have been bitching about the name for 20 years being ok with continued use of the logo. Any logo really, it doesn't matter if it's the main logo, or the spear logo, anything connected to Native Americans (without the specific endorsement of a specific tribe) would not fly.

So you would be among those thinking an endorsement of a specific tribe could make it work ?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So when I hear Red Hawk or Red Tail...seems like a cheap take on the Redskins. Like for me...it needs to be something completely new, not a knock off brand of Redskins.

That’s just me...Warriors just makes too much sense

Agree, the only reason they are even being considered is because the word "red" is in the name.

[skinsfaninok]

Redhawks and keep the R Logo but add feathers to it?

[skinsfaninok]

I'd be willing to bet Warriors is the way they go.

[Monkeydad]

I haven't posted here for years but I was curious to see what you guys think.

I really think they need to retain the B&G at all costs. We may be forced to change our name, but we have almost 90 years of tradition that doesn't need to be flushed down the toilet due to politics.

My preferences:


1. Warriors - as mentioned, Snyder has the rights to it and may have had this plan in his back pocket the entire time, knowing it would eventually happen.

We could keep the uniforms or change to the 70th Anniversary spear set and still have one of the better looks in the NFL. NO BLACK JERSEYS. Black for black's sake is never good. I prefer tradition over trends.



2. Braves - go back to our original name and it would probably have the least impact in terms of feeling like we're losing our identity.

If we go with that name, I'd love to see the leather helmet throwbacks become our primary uniform.



3. Redhawks - I wasn't a fan of it until I saw the concept that skinsfaninok posted above.

The feathered "R" logo is fantastic, but I might prefer using the Gibbs' "R" logo in it.



4. Redtails - Solid identity with some significant meaning and local roots too as 3 of the 5 Tuskegee airmen were from the D.C. area. My only hesitation is if the current racial situation in the country is the suggestion...these men were true heroes that deserve honor, not a consolation prize or being awarded it because of the color of their skin. They do not need reparation payments, they've earned all of the respect in the world based on their heroic acts. That's above politics.

I saw a concept online based on the leather helmet set with some red airplane striping added to the helmet and aviation logos on the pants.



5. Renegades - we can keep the color scheme and most logos, probably not the Indian head since we'd then be calling Native Americans violent.

70th Spear uniform!


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Also, Nike pulling our merchandise but not the Super Bowl champ Chiefs is really hypocritical. They also get heavily invested in racial politics with Kaepernick yet take this giant stand against us? And yes, there's the Chinese child labor too...

It's sad that Dan is really being blackmailed into this. He's defended the team and its tradition forever, even won in the Supreme Court when challenged, but the political powers have found a way to force him into it by making it impossible to financially afford to keep it. The D.C. mayor, FedEx and Nike's moves are more pressure than he can withstand.

After this happens, no one will be happier for it. The culture cancel movement will move onto the next target. I would not be surprised if someday the New England Patriots are a target...we're seeing in this nation how many people are offended by the concept of Patriotism, our flag, our monuments, our history, our simple founding as a nation.

Then who? The Vikings are practicing "cultural appropriation". The Cowboys, Browns and Bills named after white men so that's "white privilege". The Giants are fat shaming. The Packers can be interpreted many ways. The 49ers symbolize corporate greed and wrecking the environment, as do the Steelers. No profiting off of endangered species! Raiders and Buccaneers promote violence. Saints are promoting religion and the Fleur de Lis was used to brand runaway slaves.


Where will it stop?

[VTSkins1961]

I like you top 3 picks but I have mine in a different order. - I think as much as I hate this that besides the name change there will need to be a logo change. I don't like the Red Tails though because it could bring up more protests. Saw that logo you were talking about and I'm not a fan of it but maybe because I just don't want a name change....- just my opinion

I think most of us don't want a name change. Might be a good time to drop Washington as well depending on where we are playing....

1. Braves because that is what their original nick name was and it is a general term Change logo to Spear Can keep uniform the it is now or go to Home - burgundy jersey and gold pants Away - Burgundy pants and white jerseys, or you could go with gold pants

2. Warriors - because it is a general term Change logo to Spear Can keep uniform the it is now or go to Home - burgundy jersey and gold pants Away - Burgundy pants and white jerseys, or you could go with gold pants

3. Mohawks - would have to talk to tribe chief and get their blessing. Set up a fund for them and give them royalties - Change logo logo to Spear. Can keep uniform the it is now or go to Home - burgundy jersey and gold pants Away - Burgundy pants and white jerseys, or you could go with gold pants. I don't see this happening because down the road there could be more protests.

4. Redhawks - Change logo to R. Can keep uniform the it is now or go to Home - burgundy jersey and gold pants Away - Burgundy pants and white jerseys, or you could go with gold pants

If we go in an entirely different direction then I think I like Renegades for a nick name. Uniform could change but could also keep it the way it is now.

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I haven't posted here for years but I was curious to see what you guys think.

I really think they need to retain the B&G at all costs. We may be forced to change our name, but we have almost 90 years of tradition that doesn't need to be flushed down the toilet due to politics.

My preferences:


1. Warriors - as mentioned, Snyder has the rights to it and may have had this plan in his back pocket the entire time, knowing it would eventually happen.

We could keep the uniforms or change to the 70th Anniversary spear set and still have one of the better looks in the NFL. NO BLACK JERSEYS. Black for black's sake is never good. I prefer tradition over trends.



2. Braves - go back to our original name and it would probably have the least impact in terms of feeling like we're losing our identity.

If we go with that name, I'd love to see the leather helmet throwbacks become our primary uniform.



3. Redhawks - I wasn't a fan of it until I saw the concept that skinsfaninok posted above.

The feathered "R" logo is fantastic, but I might prefer using the Gibbs' "R" logo in it.



4. Redtails - Solid identity with some significant meaning and local roots too as 3 of the 5 Tuskegee airmen were from the D.C. area. My only hesitation is if the current racial situation in the country is the suggestion...these men were true heroes that deserve honor, not a consolation prize or being awarded it because of the color of their skin. They do not need reparation payments, they've earned all of the respect in the world based on their heroic acts. That's above politics.

I saw a concept online based on the leather helmet set with some red airplane striping added to the helmet and aviation logos on the pants.



5. Renegades - we can keep the color scheme and most logos, probably not the Indian head since we'd then be calling Native Americans violent.

70th Spear uniform!


------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Also, Nike pulling our merchandise but not the Super Bowl champ Chiefs is really hypocritical. They also get heavily invested in racial politics with Kaepernick yet take this giant stand against us? And yes, there's the Chinese child labor too...

It's sad that Dan is really being blackmailed into this. He's defended the team and its tradition forever, even won in the Supreme Court when challenged, but the political powers have found a way to force him into it by making it impossible to financially afford to keep it. The D.C. mayor, FedEx and Nike's moves are more pressure than he can withstand.

After this happens, no one will be happier for it. The culture cancel movement will move onto the next target. I would not be surprised if someday the New England Patriots are a target...we're seeing in this nation how many people are offended by the concept of Patriotism, our flag, our monuments, our history, our simple founding as a nation.

Then who? The Vikings are practicing "cultural appropriation". The Cowboys, Browns and Bills named after white men so that's "white privilege". The Giants are fat shaming. The Packers can be interpreted many ways. The 49ers symbolize corporate greed and wrecking the environment, as do the Steelers. No profiting off of endangered species! Raiders and Buccaneers promote violence. Saints are promoting religion and the Fleur de Lis was used to brand runaway slaves.


Where will it stop?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by VTSkins1961

I like you top 3 picks but I have mine in a different order. - I think as much as I hate this that besides the name change there will need to be a logo change. I don't like the Red Tails though because it could bring up more protests. Saw that logo you were talking about and I'm not a fan of it but maybe because I just don't want a name change....- just my opinion

I think most of us don't want a name change. Might be a good time to drop Washington as well depending on where we are playing....

1. Braves because that is what their original nick name was and it is a general term Change logo to Spear Can keep uniform the it is now or go to Home - burgundy jersey and gold pants Away - Burgundy pants and white jerseys, or you could go with gold pants

2. Warriors - because it is a general term Change logo to Spear Can keep uniform the it is now or go to Home - burgundy jersey and gold pants Away - Burgundy pants and white jerseys, or you could go with gold pants

3. Mohawks - would have to talk to tribe chief and get their blessing. Set up a fund for them and give them royalties - Change logo logo to Spear. Can keep uniform the it is now or go to Home - burgundy jersey and gold pants Away - Burgundy pants and white jerseys, or you could go with gold pants. I don't see this happening because down the road there could be more protests.

4. Redhawks - Change logo to R. Can keep uniform the it is now or go to Home - burgundy jersey and gold pants Away - Burgundy pants and white jerseys, or you could go with gold pants

If we go in an entirely different direction then I think I like Renegades for a nick name. Uniform could change but could also keep it the way it is now.

Hey VT, great picks and I had not thought of "Mohawks". I like it but I know the protesters won't.

If we did Mohawks, I think the 60s feather helmet would be perfect since it's positioned like a mohawk hair style.

Just do it on a modern metallic helmet, maybe swap the red for gold, it would look great.