Coronavirus (non political)

[Chico23231]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/moderna...al-testing-us/

Moderna's coronavirus vaccine ready to advance to final phase of testing


Wow great news. Big-league

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/moderna...al-testing-us/

Moderna's coronavirus vaccine ready to advance to final phase of testing


Wow great news. Big-league

Please lord let this work I need some normal life back already

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Please lord let this work I need some normal life back already

It’s been a shitty fuckin summer...the country could use some good news.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

Please lord let this work I need some normal life back already

amen but two questions

.............1) How much will it cost?

..............2) can they produce enough for everyone?

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Giantone

amen but two questions

.............1) How much will it cost?

..............2) can they produce enough for everyone?

One more question - is it safe? The fact that a lot of pharmaceuticals are going at it really fast makes me nervous. I spent a good time researching on pharmaceutical system (for my MBA and my entertainment) in the last 2 years and one of the most common things I have read is the lengthy progress of developing a drug or vaccine, it takes time to verify its efficacy and side effects. It seems like we are skipping some of the steps in the process of developing although I must admit I haven't kept up with the COVID vaccine developments lately. I know a few companies developed AI system where it will help scientists to figure out efficacy and side effects much faster than usual however the AI system is still in infant stage. I probably would wait until 2nd or 3rd round of vaccines, unless the company who develops the vaccine is able to show its efficacy and little to no side effects (or at least not significant).

To give you guys an analogy, we all know it takes months to build a brand new house. All of sudden, a random reason comes up that forces America to build brand new house within a week. In that case, we all know the quality of the house is likely to not be good as the house that builders had adequate time to build.

[Giantone]

Something to brighten the day!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...sons-optimism/

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

One more question - is it safe? The fact that a lot of pharmaceuticals are going at it really fast makes me nervous. I spent a good time researching on pharmaceutical system (for my MBA and my entertainment) in the last 2 years and one of the most common things I have read is the lengthy progress of developing a drug or vaccine, it takes time to verify its efficacy and side effects. It seems like we are skipping some of the steps in the process of developing although I must admit I haven't kept up with the COVID vaccine developments lately. I know a few companies developed AI system where it will help scientists to figure out efficacy and side effects much faster than usual however the AI system is still in infant stage. I probably would wait until 2nd or 3rd round of vaccines, unless the company who develops the vaccine is able to show its efficacy and little to no side effects (or at least not significant).

To give you guys an analogy, we all know it takes months to build a brand new house. All of sudden, a random reason comes up that forces America to build brand new house within a week. In that case, we all know the quality of the house is likely to not be good as the house that builders had adequate time to build.

I too have done lots of research on the subject. Trying to keep stuff in layman's terms here as much as possible, the "fast track" status that these vaccines are getting doesn't mean they are side-stepping patient safety or testing data. The "fast-track" refers to bypassing all of the red tape / legal mumbo jumbo. Dr. Fauci has said several times that the vaccines that the NIH are partnering with to have developed will not in any way undermine the quality of research or patient health & safety.

There are 4 vaccines that are going to start being produced in mass by the end of next month. 2 of them will have already began phase 3 trials by then. The idea is that when the Phase 3 trials are over, they will hopefully gain FDA approval shortly thereafter and with the gov't already having around 100 million doses by that point, they will begin to go out by December to the most at-risk / vulnerable people - think frontline workers, police, nurses, etc...

The rest of us / the average Joe, will be able to get them hopefully by January / February of 2021. I believe it said that by the end of 2021, Each company that is producing vaccines will have around 300 million doses of each...