Will You Still Wear Your Skins Gear After?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Why would I stop wearing Skins gear?



When I wear it now it’s a general fuck you, this is my team and fuck yours. And likewise it’s a salute to other Skins fans to say hey this is our team.



The new stuff will probably be awesome, but the old stuff to me will gain even more importance in terms of fandom. I respect that more imo.



If the underlying meaning of the question is...should you not wear Skins brand stuff. Fuck you and die is my answer and go cry some more about something as irrelevant as a sports team name.

So by that notion the Brooklyn Ni”*ers would be acceptable as long as it was around 100 years ago? Because it is just a sports team name.


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[Meks]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So by that notion the Brooklyn Ni”*ers would be acceptable as long as it was around 100 years ago? Because it is just a sports team name.


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Well 90% of the race that the team name you so eloquently displayed would be describing would not be ok or honored by it, unlike the Redskins.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Meks

Well 90% of the race that the team name you so eloquently displayed would be describing would not be ok or honored by it, unlike the Redskins.

There is absolutely zero evidence that a majority of Native Americans is for or against it. That being said we unequivocally know that there are those that are against it. How many Native Americans have you actually asked?


“As ye sow, so shall ye reap”

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

There is absolutely zero evidence that a majority of Native Americans is for or against it. That being said we unequivocally know that there are those that are against it. How many Native Americans have you actually asked?


“As ye sow, so shall ye reap”

I'm gonna defer to Mark Moseley on this one.

I'm sure he's got some bias on the issue too but if he's done as much outreach as the article implies and met so many Native Americans who aren't offended by the name, that's good enough for me.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm gonna defer to Mark Moseley on this one.



I'm sure he's got some bias on the issue too but if he's done as much outreach as the article implies and met so many Native Americans who aren't offended by the name, that's good enough for me.

He says hundreds and hundreds which is obviously debatable. Same tribe? Different tribes? Was it actually 7 of them at a bar and he was buying them drinks? Lol. Who knows? I have seen and heard from plenty who do have a problem though. We all have. We just say they have a secret agenda when they speak up.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He says hundreds and hundreds which is obviously debatable. Same tribe? Different tribes? Was it actually 7 of them at a bar and he was buying them drinks? Lol. Who knows? I have seen and heard from plenty who do have a problem though. We all have. We just say they have a secret agenda when they speak up.

Yes, I totally believe you've met more Native Americans than Mark Moseley has in 40 years of representing the Redskins.

Punch I'm trying to tread carefully here because I really don't have a problem with you, but it's clear there's nothing that's going to sway your opinion on the subject, and there's nothing that's going to sway mine. It's clear you're never going to be convinced that Native Americans aren't united on the subject of the Redskins name, and you sure as hell aren't gonna convince me that the majority of Native Americans hated the name.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Yes, I totally believe you've met more Native Americans than Mark Moseley has in 40 years of representing the Redskins.



Punch I'm trying to tread carefully here because I really don't have a problem with you, but it's clear there's nothing that's going to sway your opinion on the subject, and there's nothing that's going to sway mine. It's clear you're never going to be convinced that Native Americans aren't united on the subject of the Redskins name, and you sure as hell aren't gonna convince me that the majority of Native Americans hated the name.

LOL. Who said i met more Native Americans than Moseley. I meant seen and heard through the media, online etc... like we all have. Dont tread lightly on my account speak your mind. Im not the only one who feels this way on the board. Few others.
Also, I never said one way or another about a majority of them. I actually said there is zero proof either way. So im certainly not trying to convince you or anyone that a majority feels one way or the other. If ten percent of em are offended that’s enough for me though.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by mooby

Yes, I totally believe you've met more Native Americans than Mark Moseley has in 40 years of representing the Redskins.

Punch I'm trying to tread carefully here because I really don't have a problem with you, but it's clear there's nothing that's going to sway your opinion on the subject, and there's nothing that's going to sway mine. It's clear you're never going to be convinced that Native Americans aren't united on the subject of the Redskins name, and you sure as hell aren't gonna convince me that the majority of Native Americans hated the name.

And why does a majority have to hate the name? I don’t think that there is a question that some, likely many Native Americans feel that the name is racist and hurtful to them. And that should be enough. Additionally, is there any doubt that the word Redskins was a pejorative when speaking about native Americans at some point in our history?

[Monkeydad]

Interesting article on the transition.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...e-constraints/


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Experts expressed doubts about whether Washington could realistically complete an entire rebrand by the start of the season. Walsh, for instance, said it was possible to introduce a new name and start to make some changes around the team’s facilities before then, but added “there’s not a ton” that can get done in two months.


O’Keefe and Williams floated the idea of the team playing under generic burgundy-and-gold uniforms that just had “Washington” on them, while a new logo is designed. The Wizards’ transition from the Bullets took a full two years.

While Washington hasn’t solicited suggestions from fans, Walsh said there are steps a team can take to gauge public reaction. He noted that the NHL’s Vegas Golden Knights got a good amount of feedback on each of their potential names when the team’s trademark applications were discovered.

Once Washington does settle on a new name, it will have to decide how it wants to introduce it to the public. Williams remembered the Wizards holding two big, televised press conferences — one for the name and another to unveil the jerseys and logos. Williams said the logo unveiling was held at a Modell’s Sporting Goods and everyone who attended the press conference received a T-shirt featuring the image.

But the circumstances around Washington’s change, in particular, could force a different path. Would a splashy press conference, for example, further upset the faction of fans who don’t want the name to change? A Morning Consult poll found last week that 49% of Americans do not want the name changed. Only 29% were in favor, with the other 22% undecided. O’Keefe said it usually takes six to 12 months for a team’s fan base to “get comfortable” with a new name.

“It’s always going to be a mixed bag at first,” O’Keefe said. “No matter how well the Redskins does with this process, you’re still going to have people angry because they love the old name and the new one is new. It doesn’t have any storied history. … At first, they’re still kind of (ticked) off that they lost a name that they cared about.”

[Meks]

Originally Posted by punch it in

There is absolutely zero evidence that a majority of Native Americans is for or against it. That being said we unequivocally know that there are those that are against it. How many Native Americans have you actually asked?


“As ye sow, so shall ye reap”

The amount of lobbing about 10 pebbles into the Mississippi, on my own... Just cuz I know them... But there was that poll that wa conducted that's where the 90% in 2019 came from. To each their own in regards to what that poll shows.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Punch wants his woke points. If that involves shitting on anyone here or himself up to 2 weeks ago, so be it.

You know I love you Punch, but you're being a holier than thou right now.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by punch it in

There is absolutely zero evidence that a majority of Native Americans is for or against it. That being said we unequivocally know that there are those that are against it. How many Native Americans have you actually asked?


“As ye sow, so shall ye reap”

The Washington Post poll also had a question on how they felt about the Redskins name - Pride came out on top and was a majority. I think that is clear evidence that the majority were for it. Seems to me those that wanted, and forced the name change refuse to listen to Native Americans (certainly the vast majority of them). How will that look in a hundred years? Could end up being the same way those that forced Native American children "for their own good" into State schools a 100 plus years ago, are seen today.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

So by that notion the Brooklyn Ni”*ers would be acceptable as long as it was around 100 years ago? Because it is just a sports team name.


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Punch go back to your break...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Punch go back to your break...

How about you just think about and answer the question and stop acting oblivious just so you can wear your jersey. Lol