WFT 2020 Training Camp

[Defensewins]

https://washingtonfootballwire.usato...e-ranked-no-3/
On Our D-line ranked 3rd best in NFL by PFF. Not bad.

On RB’s, There will be plenty of carries for everyone. RB’s take a beating. There is nothing wrong with sharing the load and keeping them fresh. The season is a marathon not a sprint. Plus Guice and Love have to prove they can hold up to the punishment. I hope they can, they are both talented.
I like the way Gibbs used to handle his RB’s.
He would pound the opposing defense with his work horse like Earnest Byner to soften up the opposing defense then bring in the speed back when the opposing defense was tired and ready break. Gibbs also had a designated goal line back Gerald Riggs.
I could see Guice/AP sharing the work horse role and Love/Gibson bringing the speed. Plus you know there will be a diamond in the rough find at RB.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

https://washingtonfootballwire.usato...e-ranked-no-3/
On Our D-line ranked 3rd best in NFL by PFF. Not bad.

Id like to know who they put ahead of us honestly. Hopefully over the next few years the unit reaches its potential bc on paper, we should dominate.

Chase Young - 1st R
Sweat - 1R
Allen - 1R
Payne - 1R
Kerrigan - 1R

That is a TON of resources poured into a single unit. If I had a choice of which unit to invest heavy in ... itd be DL. But I think perhaps we went too deep.

I will never understand Payne over Derwin James.

never.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Id like to know who they put ahead of us honestly. Hopefully over the next few years the unit reaches its potential bc on paper, we should dominate.

Chase Young - 1st R
Sweat - 1R
Allen - 1R
Payne - 1R
Kerrigan - 1R

That is a TON of resources poured into a single unit. If I had a choice of which unit to invest heavy in ... itd be DL. But I think perhaps we went too deep.

I will never understand Payne over Derwin James.

never.

BPA over need.

[Monkeydad]

The ranking were:


1. Steelers
2. Eagles
3. REDSKINS
4. 49ers
5. Packers


Not sure I agree with that.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Id like to know who they put ahead of us honestly. Hopefully over the next few years the unit reaches its potential bc on paper, we should dominate.

Chase Young - 1st R
Sweat - 1R
Allen - 1R
Payne - 1R
Kerrigan - 1R

That is a TON of resources poured into a single unit. If I had a choice of which unit to invest heavy in ... itd be DL. But I think perhaps we went too deep.

I will never understand Payne over Derwin James.

never.

Yeah...I kinda agree here. But I think Payne has been decent for us...James has been the better player overall. I do believe he can breakout and be better in the 4-3 under JDR.

[AnonEmouse]

-Position you're most excited about:

Not position, but pass rush. If we can average over 3 sacks per game then we should be a top 10 defence. Though I agree if the O doesn't click that might not matter.

-Position you're most worried about:

OL definitely. I have faith in the coaching but aside from Scherff we have no names. We really need a new Hogs group to form.

-Position battle you're most intrigued about :

RB but big if on Guice and Love. And if Gibson is in the mix a la McCaffrey, it could really take the pressure off the short to mid passing game (I see a lot of screen type plays). That in turn would open up more deep shots. IF it all clicks it could be a big play O.

-Sleeper player you think will have a big impact:

I want to put Sims into this slot. With Harmon out he has the perfect opportunity to build on last season, especially if Gandy-Golden steps up to draw some coverage. 3 amigos anyone?

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

-Position you're most excited about:

Not position, but pass rush. If we can average over 3 sacks per game then we should be a top 10 defence. Though I agree if the O doesn't click that might not matter.

-Position you're most worried about:

OL definitely. I have faith in the coaching but aside from Scherff we have no names. We really need a new Hogs group to form.

-Position battle you're most intrigued about :

RB but big if on Guice and Love. And if Gibson is in the mix a la McCaffrey, it could really take the pressure off the short to mid passing game (I see a lot of screen type plays). That in turn would open up more deep shots. IF it all clicks it could be a big play O.

-Sleeper player you think will have a big impact:

I want to put Sims into this slot. With Harmon out he has the perfect opportunity to build on last season, especially if Gandy-Golden steps up to draw some coverage. 3 amigos anyone?

I don't really care about names at that position, but yeah with an aging and ever more penalized Moses, Scherff who didn't have his best season last year, Roullier who I like but is no pro baller, an incertain battle of the Wes at RG and a huge question mark at LT, I sure can understand your worries.

[calia]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I don't really care about names at that position, but yeah with an aging and ever more penalized Moses, Scherff who didn't have his best season last year, Roullier who I like but is no pro baller, an incertain battle of the Wes at RG and a huge question mark at LT, I sure can understand your worries.

I’m worried about OL and CBs the most. The CB group should have an easier time given our pass rush, but I was hoping for more FA help there after losing Dunbar (which, as it turns out) was a good thing given his legal issues. Getting Fuller back helps, but Darby is not an upgrade and the rest include Moreau (can he start?) and the other youngsters (Johnson and Stroman) who are still unproven.

Can we protect the QB enough to have a vertical game and can we keep teams from going deep on us? Unclear.


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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by calia

I’m worried about OL and CBs the most. The CB group should have an easier time given our pass rush, but I was hoping for more FA help there after losing Dunbar (which, as it turns out) was a good thing given his legal issues. Getting Fuller back helps, but Darby is not an upgrade and the rest include Moreau (can he start?) and the other youngsters (Johnson and Stroman) who are still unproven.

Can we protect the QB enough to have a vertical game and can we keep teams from going deep on us? Unclear.


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I don't share your opinion on CB. Fuller is an obvious solid starter, I do think Darby is an upgrade over an aging Norman who clearly didn't have it anymore and/or didn't fit the system, and I don't think it's crazy to hope at the very least one out of Moreau/Moreland/Stroman will have a break out season.

So I'd say we're set. Intrigued about depth competition and who's outside/nickel spot. But not worried one bit.

[calia]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I don't share your opinion on CB. Fuller is an obvious solid starter, I do think Darby is an upgrade over an aging Norman who clearly didn't have it anymore and/or didn't fit the system, and I don't think it's crazy to hope at the very least one out of Moreau/Moreland/Stroman will have a break out season.

So I'd say we're set. Intrigued about depth competition and who's outside/nickel spot. But not worried one bit.

Maybe you’ll be right, but at the moment, we have 1 CB in Fuller who would start on most teams - will be interesting to see if Moreau steps up. When We drafted him out of UCLA I thought he might be a steal. This would be the time for him to show it.


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[jamf]

Originally Posted by calia

Can we protect the QB enough to have a vertical game and can we keep teams from going deep on us? Unclear.


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Can anyone other than McLaurin play WR is a bigger question.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by jamf

Can anyone other than McLaurin play WR is a bigger question.

Yeah it seems like we are just rolling with what we got and that's scary.. We probably have the weakest TE/WR combo in the league

[SunnySide]

NFL training camp schedules 2020

With the exception of the Chiefs and Texans, all NFL teams will conduct 2020 training camps on the same schedule. While specifics like workout/practice times and other logistics will vary from team to team, the NFL and the NFLPA agreed to a specific timeline that includes acclimation and ramp-up periods before teams can begin practicing with pads.

Below is the training camp schedule all NFL teams will follow. (The Chiefs and Texans' training camp schedules play out days earlier than the dates below.)

Dates Period
July 28-31 COVID-19 testing and virtual meetings
Aug. 1-2 Physicals and equipment distribution
Aug. 3-11 Acclimation period
Aug. 12-16 Gradual ramp-up period
Aug. 17-Sept. 6 Contact integration period (practice)

The NFLPA pushed for so much time between training camp reporting dates and padded practices because the entire offseason program played out virtually in 2020. The players wanted to give themselves the best chance to get into football shape and avoid injuries.

Below is a more detailed breakdown of the five periods in the 2020 training camp schedule.

COVID-19 testing and virtual meetings (July 28-31)

July 28: COVID-19 testing and virtual meetings
July 29: COVID-19 testing and virtual meetings
July 30: Virtual meetings
July 31: COVID-19 testing and virtual meetings

Physicals and equipment (Aug. 1-2)

After everybody has gone through a round of initial COVID-19 testing and subsequent isolation, those who tested negative will proceed with the basics of training camp prep.

This is also the period where daily COVID-19 testing begins. The NFL will have players tested once a day for the first two weeks of camp, and after two weeks, if the rate of positive tests is below five percent, testing will move to every other day.

Acclimation period (Aug. 3-11)

One hour of weight room and one hour of on-field conditioning
Total strength and conditioning (small groups under 15) duration capped at two hours
No conditioning tests
Only strength and conditioning coaches for strength and conditioning drills
On-field strength and conditioning subject to Phase 1 rules (QBs, receivers, kickers, punters and long snappers permitted to use footballs)
In addition to strength and conditioning, walkthroughs permitted up to one hour on each of the first four days and up to 75 minutes on each of the final four days
Aug. 8 is an off day

Gradual ramp-up period (Aug 12-16)

Maximum of 3 1/2 hours of on-field time per day
First practice starts at 90 minutes with a max increase of 15 minutes per day up to a daily maximum of 120 minutes
Remainder of daily 3 1/2 hour on-field time limit applied to walkthrough
Aug. 12-13: Phase 2 activities; helmets and approved protective shirts permitted
Aug. 14-16: Non-padded practice days (no live contact, all customary practice activities); helmets, spiders, shells permitted
Aug. 15 is an off day

Contact integration period (Aug. 17 - Sept. 6)

Duration starts at 90 minutes with 15-minute daily increases
No increase or decrease in duration following an off day
Daily time limits dictated by CBA
Maximum of 14 padded practices

The first regular-season game of the season, Chiefs vs. Texans, is scheduled for Thursday, Sept. 10, with the rest of the Week 1 slate scheduled to play out the following Sunday and Monday.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...f1vqf251zpeuc0

So im guessing the skins started COVID testing and virtual meetings yesterday.

[MTK]

I like Payne's ceiling more than Jonathan Allen's. I think Payne is ready to break out in the 4-3.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

I like Payne's ceiling more than Jonathan Allen's. I think Payne is ready to break out in the 4-3.

Me too, Allen is solid but he doesn't have that burst like Payne