Report: New harassment allegations against the Redskins

[FrenchSkin]

Where I don't think it'll be enough to force him to sell the team is that I honestly think you could find the same kind of stories on the majority of owners/franchise, and that other owners would be too scared of what it could mean for them in the near future.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Where I don't think it'll be enough to force him to sell the team is that I honestly think you could find the same kind of stories on the majority of owners/franchise, and that other owners would be too scared of what it could mean for them in the near future.

I think it is easy to suggest that this is happens with the majority of owners/franchise. But where are the articles and investigations of other teams? Hell, one team, the Steelers doesn’t even have a cheerleader squad!

Snyder has been the worst owner in the NFL for the last 20 years. He’s treated the fans poorly, with some of the highest stadium prices in the NFL. He’s consistently micro-managed and totally mis-managed the football team, through his toadies, Cerrato and Allen - for the third worst record in the NFL for the period. Only because class acts like Rivera insisted that he wouldn’t even interview for HC with Snyder’s lackeys in place, that Bruce Allen was finally let go.

Right from the get-go Snyder has been one of the biggest a-holes as an employer. He fired long-term Redskin employees in 1999 to get “his people” in place. Anyone who makes you sign a non-disclosure statement is covering up something. Snyder has always allowed a terrible work environment, yet is super-quick to sue you in court if you tell anyone about it.

Snyder has non-disclosure statements which his billion dollar war chest can use to sue you if he doesn’t like what you say about the team or atmosphere later. Then he has the balls to criticize a woman, an UNPAID CHEERLEADER, who said Snyder sent her off to “take care” of a buddy of his in a hotel room, for not telling him and the organization about it at the time. Snyder has ALWAYS been hanging around the field, offices, etc with his butt brothers, yet claims he was too hands off!

Did you see numerous complaints that employees were not supposed to look Snyder in the eyes- ever! Tell me that is a normal NFL rule for owners. Or show me other teams that have produced smut tapes on the cheerleaders - who are not even paid! Or asked unpaid cheerleaders to give a good time to Snyder’s buddies on calendar shoots!

I hope these are the final days of the worst disaster of an owner in Redskins history. Terrible football, perverted sexual and abhorrent work environment and yearly ripping off of the fans in one of the most rundown stadiums in the NFL. I mean you can’t even BRING A SIGN TO THE STADIUM because Snyder doesn’t want to know that he’s been a horror-show in every area and that the fans hate him. Yeah, you can say this is normal to the NFL, but it’s because we’ve become used to the low standards of this organizations and Danny the Dictator that you can’t even see how far this team, on and off the field, has fallen.

I hope that the embarrassment to this franchise and the NFL finally frees us of Daniel Snyder. Just because he’s a billionaire doesn’t mean he can use and abuse employees and the fans forever. I hope Goodell brings Danny into his office and LOOKS INTO HIS EYES and says the owners have voted him out of the NFL. That’s when this team, employees and fan get to have a REAL cultural change!

Rant over!


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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Warthog

I think it is easy to suggest that this is happens with the majority of owners/franchise. But where are the articles and investigations of other teams? Hell, one team, the Steelers doesn’t even have a cheerleader squad!

Snyder has been the worst owner in the NFL for the last 20 years. He’s treated the fans poorly, with some of the highest stadium prices in the NFL. He’s consistently micro-managed and totally mis-managed the football team, through his toadies, Cerrato and Allen - for the third worst record in the NFL for the period. Only because class acts like Rivera insisted that he wouldn’t even interview for HC with Snyder’s lackeys in place, that Bruce Allen was finally let go.

Right from the get-go Snyder has been one of the biggest a-holes as an employer. He fired long-term Redskin employees in 1999 to get “his people” in place. Anyone who makes you sign a non-disclosure statement is covering up something. Snyder has always allowed a terrible work environment, yet is super-quick to sue you in court if you tell anyone about it.

Snyder has non-disclosure statements which his billion dollar war chest can use to sue you if he doesn’t like what you say about the team or atmosphere later. Then he has the balls to criticize a woman, an UNPAID CHEERLEADER, who said Snyder sent her off to “take care” of a buddy of his in a hotel room, for not telling him and the organization about it at the time. Snyder has ALWAYS been hanging around the field, offices, etc with his butt brothers, yet claims he was too hands off!

Did you see numerous complaints that employees were not supposed to look Snyder in the eyes- ever! Tell me that is a normal NFL rule for owners. Or show me other teams that have produced smut tapes on the cheerleaders - who are not even paid! Or asked unpaid cheerleaders to give a good time to Snyder’s buddies on calendar shoots!

I hope these are the final days of the worst disaster of an owner in Redskins history. Terrible football, perverted sexual and abhorrent work environment and yearly ripping off of the fans in one of the most rundown stadiums in the NFL. I mean you can’t even BRING A SIGN TO THE STADIUM because Snyder doesn’t want to know that he’s been a horror-show in every area and that the fans hate him. Yeah, you can say this is normal to the NFL, but it’s because we’ve become used to the low standards of this organizations and Danny the Dictator that you can’t even see how far this team, on and off the field, has fallen.

I hope that the embarrassment to this franchise and the NFL finally frees us of Daniel Snyder. Just because he’s a billionaire doesn’t mean he can use and abuse employees and the fans forever. I hope Goodell brings Danny into his office and LOOKS INTO HIS EYES and says the owners have voted him out of the NFL. That’s when this team, employees and fan get to have a REAL cultural change!

Rant over!


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I'm not saying it's normal. I agree he's a horrible owner and even worse human being. I even agree he is probably the worst owner in the NFL.

All I'm saying is I'm not sure it's enough to realistically expect 75% of the other owners to vote him out, because I don't think it's crazy to think others may have done the same kind of things. Maybe not to the same extent, maybe not that often, maybe not that long, maybe not that bad... but the same kind.

And they would be setting a precedent that could come back and bite them. Or a least they could be worrying about that.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I'm not saying it's normal. I agree he's a horrible owner and even worse human being. I even agree he is probably the worst owner in the NFL.

All I'm saying is I'm not sure it's enough to realistically expect 75% of the other owners to vote him out, because I don't think it's crazy to think others may have done the same kind of things. Maybe not to the same extent, maybe not that often, maybe not that long, maybe not that bad... but the same kind.

And they would be setting a precedent that could come back and bite them. Or a least they could be worrying about that.

Here’s what the team has done, under Snyder:

1. NO SIGNS at the games. ******post revision- this is evidently not true.******

2. Employees were instructed not to look Daniel Snyder in the eye, ever, like they were a subservient and lower human being.

3. Unpaid cheerleaders were taken on calendar shoots in other countries and MORE THAN ONE SMUT FILMS were made by using a side camera while the woman prepared for supposedly covered up topless photographs. Taken while they undressed. They were not compensated for this. The cheerleaders could not tell anyone about this because of non-disclosure agreements.

4. Unpaid cheerleaders were encouraged to perform sex with visiting “big wigs” or Snyder’s friends, during these exotic calendar shoots. It is alleged that Snyder himself asked a long-standing cheerleader to do this for a friend.

5. Employees have to sign non-disclosure agreements to work for the team. As a classic, over-bearing and vengeful team owner with billions in assets, Snyder has a Uber-aggressive legal team of lawyers that he has used to sue former employees and even fans. This has effectively silenced many who saw the problems in the franchise but were cowed by Snyder’s proclivity to sue at a moments notice.

6. The Redskins have some of the highest ticket and concession prices in the NFL, for being in the group of the worst teams in the NFL. FEDEX stadium has degenerated into one of the most run-down stadiums in the NFL. Highest prices for one of the worst team in the lousiest venue in the NFL.

7. Snyder has micro-managed the team from day one using his lackeys (like Cerrato and Allen) to give him “ plausible deniability”. He’s always around, yet when dozens of allegations of sexual harassment from over 40 different women, and a toxic, oppressive and hostile work environment surface, Snyder claims he know nothing about it!! He’s “hand off”, so he says. In reality he’s out there making many decisions on many levels , with only his idol, Jerry Jones, being more intrusive. These aren’t isolated events but a day-to-day work environment.

You may find others teams with maybe ONE of these issues, but to a MUCH LESSER degree. But NO TEAM have had the body wide cancer as the WFT. I think you will see other teams quietly make adjustments to fix any such problems because of Daniel Snyder’s example of how to destroy a honored, well-respected football franchise with the worst micro-management in the game.

What happens next?

A. NO NEW STADIUM.Daniel Snyder is now a pariah in the NFL. No politician will give him a dime, nor land, nor other concessions to the franchise for a NEW STADIUM while he is still owner.

B. With all these allegations by 42 employees, it is hard to believe that any real investigation would find NOTHING THERE. More allegations will come from other employees who aren’t intimidated by Snyder’s attack dog lawyers. Snyder is hoping for just a little jello to stick to the wall, and then to hide behind Rivera and Wright in a “new culture” and transparencies their operations. But 20 years of misdeeds and blundering isn’t easily erased. There will be more inflammatory newspaper and magazine article about the rot that took over the team in Snyder’s reign of terror.

At the end of this season, Snyder will be forced to quietly sell the team. Then he can crawl back under the rock he came from.


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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Here’s what the team has done, under Snyder:

1. NO SIGNS at the games

2. Employees were to not to look Daniel Snyder in the eye, ever, like they are a subservient and lower human being.

3. Unpaid cheerleaders were taken on calendar shoots in other countries and MORE THAN ONE SMUT FILMS were made by using a side camera while the woman prepared for supposedly covered up topless photographs. Taken while they undressed. They were not compensated for this. The cheerleaders could not tell anyone about this because of non-disclosure agreements.

4. Unpaid cheerleaders were encouraged to perform sex with visiting “big wigs” or Snyder’s friends, during these exotic calendar shoots. It is alleged that Snyder himself asked a long-standing cheerleader to do this for a friend.

5. Employees have to sign non-disclosure agreements to work for the team. As a classic, over-bearing and vengeful team owner with billions in assets, Snyder has a Uber-aggressive legal team of lawyers that he has used to sue former employees and even fans. This has effectively silenced many who saw the problems in the franchise but were cowed by Snyder’s proclivity to sue at a moments notice.

6. The Redskins have some of the highest ticket and concession prices in the NFL, for being in the group of the worst teams in the NFL. FEDEX stadium has degenerated into one of the most run-down stadiums in the NFL. Highest prices for one of the worst team in the lousiest venue in the NFL.

7. Snyder has micro-managed the team from day one using his lackeys (like Cerrato and Allen) to give him “ plausible deniability”. He’s always around, yet when dozens of allegations of sexual harassment from over 40 different women, and a toxic, oppressive and hostile work environment surface, Snyder claims he know nothing about it!! He’s “hand off”, so he says. In reality he’s out there making many decisions on many levels , with only his idol, Jerry Jones, being more intrusive. These aren’t isolated events but a day-to-day work environment.

You may find others teams with maybe ONE of these issues, but to a MUCH LESSER degree. But NO TEAM have had the body wide cancer as the WFT. I think you will see other teams quietly make adjustments to fix any such problems because of Daniel Snyder’s example of how to destroy a honored, well-respected football franchise with the worst micro-management in the game.

What happens next?

A. NO NEW STADIUM.Daniel Snyder is now a pariah in the NFL. No politician will give him a dime, nor land, nor other concessions to the franchise for a NEW STADIUM while he is still owner.

B. With all these allegations by 42 employees, it is hard to believe that any real investigation would find NOTHING THERE. More allegations will come from other employees who aren’t intimidated by Snyder’s attack dog lawyers. Snyder is hoping for just a little jello to stick to the wall, and then to hide behind Rivera and Wright in a “new culture” and transparencies their operations. But 20 years of misdeeds and blundering isn’t easily erased. There will be more inflammatory newspaper and magazine article about the rot that took over the team in Snyder’s reign of terror.

At the end of this season, Snyder will be forced to quietly sell the team. Then he can crawl back under the rock he came from.


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You know what ? I hope you're right.

Agree with the rest of your post.

(The sign part is not 100% accurate though, you're allowed to have signs at FedEx, I brought one, they just check what it says before letting you in... kinda the same I guess).

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

You know what ? I hope you're right.

Agree with the rest of your post.

(The sign part is not 100% accurate though, you're allowed to have signs at FedEx, I brought one, they just check what it says before letting you in... kinda the same I guess).

Thanks for updating me on the sign issue at FEDEX. Are they just checking for cursing when they check it? Or any anti-Snyder blather?

Hell, I carried signs with my daughter to the Lincoln (called “the Linc”) Stadium for a Redskins-Eagles game, and thought I might be murdered by drunk fans there. But the funny thing was, the Redskins won and my picture (with the signs) made it into the WaPo. . I also had a Captain Chaos sign and got to meet Chris Coolie’s wife (she was a very nice person but did have a body guard - smart) who was sitting nearby. Kind of a cool day, overall!

So it really irked me when I heard there was no signage in FEDEX. Glad to hear I was wrong about that. Snyder moves up one millimeter from his current status as a bottom-sucking, tin-plated dictator. “Don’t the look at my eyes”. YGBSM!!

Unless the VAST MAJORITY of the allegations in WaPo articles are proved to be rubbish, I just don’t see him ever getting a new stadium. No politician, in either party, will touch him or help him with a 20’ pole. If the legal investigation finds out that much of the charges are true, I just don’t see how the NFL can let it slide. I still think his forced departure will be quietly done, with him making a $ billion or two to assuage his tears at losing his team. But more stories will keep coming out until the NFL does something, at the end of the season.


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[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Thanks for updating me on the sign issue at FEDEX. Are they just checking for cursing when they check it? Or any anti-Snyder blather?

Hell, I carried signs with my daughter to the Lincoln (called “the Linc”) Stadium for a Redskins-Eagles game, and thought I might be murdered by drunk fans there. But the funny thing was, the Redskins won and my picture (with the signs) made it into the WaPo. . I also had a Captain Chaos sign and got to meet Chris Coolie’s wife (she was a very nice person but did have a body guard - smart) who was sitting nearby. Kind of a cool day, overall!

So it really irked me when I heard there was no signage in FEDEX. Glad to hear I was wrong about that. Snyder moves up one millimeter from his current status as a bottom-sucking, tin-plated dictator. “Don’t the look at my eyes”. YGBSM!!

Unless the VAST MAJORITY of the allegations in WaPo articles are proved to be rubbish, I just don’t see him ever getting a new stadium. No politician, in either party, will touch him or help him with a 20’ pole. If the legal investigation finds out that much of the charges are true, I just don’t see how the NFL can let it slide. I still think his forced departure will be quietly done, with him making a $ billion or two to assuage his tears at losing his team. But more stories will keep coming out until the NFL does something, at the end of the season.


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Well they didn't tell me what they where looking for, nor what was banned, they just told me, nice security lady actually, "I have to see what's written to let you in", so I don't know exactly what's the policy.

You reasoning makes sense. Mid to long term the situation may very well become too much for the NFL to continue putting up with it. I'm not sure we're there yet.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Thanks for updating me on the sign issue at FEDEX. Are they just checking for cursing when they check it? Or any anti-Snyder blather?

Hell, I carried signs with my daughter to the Lincoln (called “the Linc”) Stadium for a Redskins-Eagles game, and thought I might be murdered by drunk fans there. But the funny thing was, the Redskins won and my picture (with the signs) made it into the WaPo. . I also had a Captain Chaos sign and got to meet Chris Coolie’s wife (she was a very nice person but did have a body guard - smart) who was sitting nearby. Kind of a cool day, overall!

So it really irked me when I heard there was no signage in FEDEX. Glad to hear I was wrong about that. Snyder moves up one millimeter from his current status as a bottom-sucking, tin-plated dictator. “Don’t the look at my eyes”. YGBSM!!

Unless the VAST MAJORITY of the allegations in WaPo articles are proved to be rubbish, I just don’t see him ever getting a new stadium. No politician, in either party, will touch him or help him with a 20’ pole. If the legal investigation finds out that much of the charges are true, I just don’t see how the NFL can let it slide. I still think his forced departure will be quietly done, with him making a $ billion or two to assuage his tears at losing his team. But more stories will keep coming out until the NFL does something, at the end of the season.


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Do you remember the incident with the Old Lady season ticket holder who lived across the street from FED Ex.Snyder had suttle bring patrons into the stadium from different areas and he got a cut. The Lady lived across the street and would walk up the hill to Fed Ex , Snyder security said she had to take a shuttle and wasn't allowed to walk in , she won her court case.


This was part of it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-84d56669b020/

[Burgold]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Here’s what the team has done, under Snyder:

1. NO SIGNS at the games

2. Employees were to not to look Daniel Snyder in the eye, ever, like they are a subservient and lower human being.

3. Unpaid cheerleaders were taken on calendar shoots in other countries and MORE THAN ONE SMUT FILMS were made by using a side camera while the woman prepared for supposedly covered up topless photographs. Taken while they undressed. They were not compensated for this. The cheerleaders could not tell anyone about this because of non-disclosure agreements.

4. Unpaid cheerleaders were encouraged to perform sex with visiting “big wigs” or Snyder’s friends, during these exotic calendar shoots. It is alleged that Snyder himself asked a long-standing cheerleader to do this for a friend.

5. Employees have to sign non-disclosure agreements to work for the team. As a classic, over-bearing and vengeful team owner with billions in assets, Snyder has a Uber-aggressive legal team of lawyers that he has used to sue former employees and even fans. This has effectively silenced many who saw the problems in the franchise but were cowed by Snyder’s proclivity to sue at a moments notice.

6. The Redskins have some of the highest ticket and concession prices in the NFL, for being in the group of the worst teams in the NFL. FEDEX stadium has degenerated into one of the most run-down stadiums in the NFL. Highest prices for one of the worst team in the lousiest venue in the NFL.

7. Snyder has micro-managed the team from day one using his lackeys (like Cerrato and Allen) to give him “ plausible deniability”. He’s always around, yet when dozens of allegations of sexual harassment from over 40 different women, and a toxic, oppressive and hostile work environment surface, Snyder claims he know nothing about it!! He’s “hand off”, so he says. In reality he’s out there making many decisions on many levels , with only his idol, Jerry Jones, being more intrusive. These aren’t isolated events but a day-to-day work environment.

You may find others teams with maybe ONE of these issues, but to a MUCH LESSER degree. But NO TEAM have had the body wide cancer as the WFT. I think you will see other teams quietly make adjustments to fix any such problems because of Daniel Snyder’s example of how to destroy a honored, well-respected football franchise with the worst micro-management in the game.

What happens next?

A. NO NEW STADIUM.Daniel Snyder is now a pariah in the NFL. No politician will give him a dime, nor land, nor other concessions to the franchise for a NEW STADIUM while he is still owner.

B. With all these allegations by 42 employees, it is hard to believe that any real investigation would find NOTHING THERE. More allegations will come from other employees who aren’t intimidated by Snyder’s attack dog lawyers. Snyder is hoping for just a little jello to stick to the wall, and then to hide behind Rivera and Wright in a “new culture” and transparencies their operations. But 20 years of misdeeds and blundering isn’t easily erased. There will be more inflammatory newspaper and magazine article about the rot that took over the team in Snyder’s reign of terror.

At the end of this season, Snyder will be forced to quietly sell the team. Then he can crawl back under the rock he came from.


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You ain't never lied,all that you say is right on point,if the team wants respect Snyder's got to go.