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[MTK]

Glad to hear you are ok CR.

I think the differing opinions here shows how complex of an issue this all is, there are no easy answers.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

Glad to hear you are ok CR.

I think the differing opinions here shows how complex of an issue this all is, there are no easy answers.

But there are easy answers MTK, those answers are wear a mask and avoid large crowds for an extended period of time. Had we done this back in April this mess would be in the rearview mirror but unfortunately people are selfish and cant/wont do something for the greater good.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

But there are easy answers MTK, those answers are wear a mask and avoid large crowds for an extended period of time. Had we done this back in April this mess would be in the rearview mirror but unfortunately people are selfish and cant/wont do something for the greater good.

Yes that part is easy, masks and social distancing is the least we can do and I've never understood the drama around that.

Balancing things like keeping people healthy and re-opening businesses and how soon can we get back to somewhat normal is the trickier part I was referring to.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MTK

Yes that part is easy, masks and social distancing is the least we can do and I've never understood the drama around that.

Balancing things like keeping people healthy and re-opening businesses and how soon can we get back to somewhat normal is the trickier part I was referring to.

Understood. It is trickier than it needs to be because selfish people keep making things difficult for all of us.

I have a friend who works at NIH, she puts on the biohazard suit like Dustin Hoffman did in Outbreak, to study the virus and those who have it. She takes her data and compiles it with others data and briefs Dr. Fauci on the findings. This isn't made up and it is as deadly as the numbers say. The selfish people who wont contribute to the greater good frustrate her to no end.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by irish

But there are easy answers MTK, those answers are wear a mask and avoid large crowds for an extended period of time. Had we done this back in April this mess would be in the rearview mirror but unfortunately people are selfish and cant/wont do something for the greater good.

Ah, "greater good"...the Adolf Hitler argument.

I cannot believe there are still people who can't see the political manipulation we're being subjected to.

Here in Pennsylvania, our Governor has done a fine job of choosing winners and losers. His own company and campaign donors have been granted waivers to stay open. He has punished counties by not moving their "color scale" for no other reason than they spoke up against his decisions. He marched with the Black Lives Matter rioters multiple times for a photo op while now allowing others to assemble or people to go to churches. Our Secretary of Health pulled his OWN mother out of a nursing home just before he and the Governor started sending COVID patients to nursing homes. They've stopped talking about deaths because they were not happening, so they started reporting cases. The cases are not happening at a rate to justify keeping everyone shut down until the election, so now it's all about the number of tests taken.

And yes, not reported by CNN, but the CDC themselves said the actual COVID deaths are not 180,000, but around 6-8,000.

The goals of the leftists are seeing success. Citizens are turning against their fellow citizens, looking at your neighbors like they are out to kill you with the disease. People are getting violent over others not falling in line with the Government's (big G) orders. States do not have to do any enforcement, brainwashed citizens are doing it for them.

Don't just look at this assault, listen to the reporter and witnesses:

"You have to wear a mask in and keep it on." "People should wear a mask!"

Then no one bothered to help the poor old woman. Why? Afraid of getting within 6 feet of another human?


The mask isn't the issue here yet everyone keeps talking about that. People shouldn't assault other people.

[SFREDSKIN]

Good!!

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[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Good!!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/f...am-name-change

Absolutely. A company who plays politics faces consequences.


I'll actively try to avoid using Fed-Ex from here out. I really hope Joe Gibbs drops them as a NASCAR sponsor.

Nike has been crossed off my list for years. Aside from their horrible politics, every pair I've had has lost it's sole...ask Zion Williamson about that. I've never had New Balance (my new favorite brand) or Adidas do that.




With any luck, the NFL will see it's dropping ratings and revenues and fire Goodell. The new Commissioner hired needs to be a no-nonsense, no politics leader. He or she needs to come in and wipe the slate clean...eliminate all politics from the sport and hope fans will forgive and return. Apoligies and amends need to be made to the fans for the way they've acted and ruined the game that we love. Uniforms should no longer be a statement of expression, make them UNIFORM again. Disrespect of the nation that pays them millions to play a game for a living should not be tolerate. The politics of the current NFL WILL kill the league. Learn from the NBA's example, they're on their deathbed for their "wokeness", obsession with BLM and affair with Communist China. They've had to sell ad space on their jerseys to survive financially. The WNBA has been worse. Those women are being beyond disrespectful to a level of absurdity. They're not just peacefully kneeling, they're making a selfish spectacle with rehearsed displays of protest. No wonder that league is practically dead.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Absolutely. A company who plays politics faces consequences.


I'll actively try to avoid using Fed-Ex from here out. I really hope Joe Gibbs drops them as a NASCAR sponsor.

Nike has been crossed off my list for years. Aside from their horrible politics, every pair I've had has lost it's sole...ask Zion Williamson about that. I've never had New Balance (my new favorite brand) or Adidas do that.




With any luck, the NFL will see it's dropping ratings and revenues and fire Goodell. The new Commissioner hired needs to be a no-nonsense, no politics leader. He or she needs to come in and wipe the slate clean...eliminate all politics from the sport and hope fans will forgive and return. Apoligies and amends need to be made to the fans for the way they've acted and ruined the game that we love. Uniforms should no longer be a statement of expression, make them UNIFORM again. Disrespect of the nation that pays them millions to play a game for a living should not be tolerate. The politics of the current NFL WILL kill the league. Learn from the NBA's example, they're on their deathbed for their "wokeness", obsession with BLM and affair with Communist China. They've had to sell ad space on their jerseys to survive financially. The WNBA has been worse. Those women are being beyond disrespectful to a level of absurdity. They're not just peacefully kneeling, they're making a selfish spectacle with rehearsed displays of protest. No wonder that league is practically dead.

Enjoy football this year for as long as it lasts. Between the political stuff, and the major issues like fans not being allowed at games anymore, i don't see any way they can survive it. The NFL might be out of business within two more seasons. Ratings are already down, and with knowing that we will never have full capacity stadiums anymore, i just don't see how they make enough money to keep going. This is probably the beginning of the end for the league....

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Enjoy football this year for as long as it lasts. Between the political stuff, and the major issues like fans not being allowed at games anymore, i don't see any way they can survive it. The NFL might be out of business within two more seasons. Ratings are already down, and with knowing that we will never have full capacity stadiums anymore, i just don't see how they make enough money to keep going. This is probably the beginning of the end for the league....

Seriously dude your doom and gloom is exhausting and just not reflective of reality.

Fox is reportedly willing to pay up to $2 billion a year for Sunday NFL games, a giant increase

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Enjoy football this year for as long as it lasts. Between the political stuff, and the major issues like fans not being allowed at games anymore, i don't see any way they can survive it. The NFL might be out of business within two more seasons. Ratings are already down, and with knowing that we will never have full capacity stadiums anymore, i just don't see how they make enough money to keep going. This is probably the beginning of the end for the league....

Have you ever gone back and read the fear based reactions you post on here that end up being just wrong.

Other than I value the rainforest, I would print them out for you

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Absolutely. A company who plays politics faces consequences.


I'll actively try to avoid using Fed-Ex from here out. I really hope Joe Gibbs drops them as a NASCAR sponsor.

So youre going to protest "cancel culture" .. by practicing cancel culture?

okay then ...

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

So youre going to protest "cancel culture" .. by practicing cancel culture?

okay then ...

I've never said we must protest to shut down Fed-Ex's doors and demand legislation to ban them, Im, just choosing to spend my money elsewhere.

BIG difference. Free market vs. Marxism,

Nice try with your cute little meme. Try again.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

And yes, not reported by CNN, but the CDC themselves said the actual COVID deaths are not 180,000, but around 6-8,000.

I suggest you to check the CDC data again.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I suggest you to check the CDC data again.

The eyes see what they want to see Gridiron. Is it true that 90+ percent of all COVID deaths were partially due to some underlying cause? Absolutely.

Is it also true that America as a country has one of the highest obesity/pre-existing condition rates? Also true. Sure one or the other might not be immediately fatal, but what happens when you combine both? If you have a pre-existing condition, you are high risk. Period. Wear the fucking mask, out of common courtesy for your fellow man.

I'm gonna simplify this argument for those of you that think this is some worldwide conspiracy to undermine our president:

Wear a mask = you care about the general wellbeing of other people

Refuse to wear a mask = you're an asshole, who doesn't give a fuck about anyone besides yourself

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

The eyes see what they want to see Gridiron. Is it true that 90+ percent of all COVID deaths were partially due to some underlying cause? Absolutely.

Is it also true that America as a country has one of the highest obesity/pre-existing condition rates? Also true. Sure one or the other might not be immediately fatal, but what happens when you combine both? If you have a pre-existing condition, you are high risk. Period. Wear the fucking mask, out of common courtesy for your fellow man.

I'm gonna simplify this argument for those of you that think this is some worldwide conspiracy to undermine our president:

Wear a mask = you care about the general wellbeing of other people

Refuse to wear a mask = you're an asshole, who doesn't give a fuck about anyone besides yourself

I think that in the USA we will have to wear masks in public for the rest of our life. Not necessarily because of a law, although that will probably be the case, but because of public perception and the average person being afraid to venture out without having it. What do you think? I believe that this coronavirus stuff in the USA does not have an end game, i think it will be this way forever. Even Dr. Fauci said that a vaccine WILL NOT end the pandemic, and that we can't go back to living and doing things as we did before. How about you?