Supreme Court vacancy

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

I imagine conservatives view controlling the SC for 2 reasons.

1. abolish abortion
2. run to Courts to stop anything a Dem president or legislature passes.

Re abortion .. do conservatives really think abolishing abortion is a winning strategy going forward? Their hardcore religious base may finally get their wish .. but I just dont see many new voters or independents joining a party that puts religion above politics and the Constitution.

re SC to block Dem laws ... if this happens repeatedly and it becomes apparent that the conservative SC is not applying the law but now just a political branch serving just conservatives ... wont that be the end of the SC? Why wouldnt Dems just add 43 new justices and make the SC the theatre of the absurd? Wouldnt the deference to the SC be greatly diminished in the eyes of Americans?

Too me, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, due process, etc is where most see the most threats by folks who want the government to step in and regulate/restrict both. Liberal lobby groups have thrown a lot of money at getting rid of religious issues...you can’t argue that, simply fact...across many states.

You guys hate the freedom part of civil liberties and want big brother.

A lot of people/media go 2nd amendment, Abortion, etc, but I don’t.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Too me, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, due process, etc is where most see the most threats by folks who want the government to step in and regulate/restrict both. Liberal lobby groups have thrown a lot of money at getting rid of religious issues...you can’t argue that, simply fact...across many states.

You guys hate the freedom part of civil liberties and want big brother.

A lot of people/media go 2nd amendment, Abortion, etc, but I don’t.

With the freedom of religion - im somewhat naive to that bc im not religious. With Hobby Lobby not wanting to be forced to cover birth control, I agreed with Hobby Lobby on that and I could see where they were coming from. With a valedictorian of a public school wanting to thank god or spend a min or so of a 10 min speech on god, im fine with that.

I am against school sponsored prayer, I am for allowing students gather and do religious type things after hours on school property.
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The U.S. Supreme Court banned school-sponsored prayer in public schools in a 1962 decision, saying that it violated the First Amendment. But students are allowed to meet and pray on school grounds as long as they do so privately and don't try to force others to do the same.

The group included William McLeod, a 9-year-old Utah boy who was forced to remove the cross of ashes from his forehead on Ash Wednesday. "I just don't want anyone to feel like that," McLeod said.

It said there has been an increasing number of reports of schools promoting prayer in ways that cross the line — such as an Alabama high school where a student football team was baptized at school.

Joseph Kennedy, a Washington state high school football coach who lost his job after he refused to stop praying on the field after games.
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/16/79686...yer-in-schools
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I do not think the kid on Ash Wednesday should have been forced to remove the ask cross from his forehead.

The coach holding prayer sessions after football games ... Im torn on that one bc i could see students feel like they need to participate even though they are not religious. Others will say its after the game and voluntary .. but if the coach felt so strong about it here that he wouldnt stop and lost his job for it ... is it really a stretch to imagine he would view or bench a player who didnt take part or who said he doesnt believe in god?

The religious thing always gets me ... bc to me what is the big fucking deal? as long as my kid isnt subject to a morning prayer, I dont care.

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When was the last time you went to church?