Play Calling

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

Are we watching to same team. Every year they are trading away picks for people. Every year since 1999 we have signed a number of free agents and drafted horrible, with some of them being cut before the season starts. The first thing the "organization" needs to do is hire a general manager. Bring Ron Wolf out of retirement, he is a local guy that would not have to travel so much. What about Bobby Bethard? Joe needs to stick to coaching and stop making personel moves. Danny is in no way going to say no to what Joe is asking for, whether its a good move or bad move. Joe is a great coach, but very few great coaches can be both a coach and GM. and some have failed miserably. Once we get a front office in place the team will show some improvement, but as long as Danny, Vinney, and Pepper Rogers are making personel moves, we will continue to falter the way we have since Danny took over. GMs are highly underrated in todays NFL, but look at how well teams like New England, Philly, Dallas, Chicago, Cincinnati, Giants are doing. All those teams draft talent to build a team, then maybe add a key free agent here or there. Not 6 to 7 started on both sides of the ball every year. This year is the first year I can remember we didn't actually go out and sign every big name out there, but we did not draft too well. We needed a #2 receiver and Mike Williams was available, we could have drafter a corner with our 2nd round pick. Even if you wanted Campbell that bad, he was still going to be there in the 2nd round. Look at the two or three DE that were available when we picked. Look at what they are doing in Dallas. I rest my case, we need a GM.

I........I think I am watching the same team. However, Joe and the boys cannot held accountable for pre-2004 draft/FA associated atrocities. While I might agree that the "right" GM could be a good thing. To lay the total success of the teams you mention at the feet of their respective GM's is opinion. I could just as easily make the arguement that the ONLY thing their GM's did was to hire big time coach's with winning track records. Obviously, that may or may not be the case. The point of my original post is: this team ain't bad. They have had a TOUGH schedule. They have been in til' the end all but one game this year. They should have won some if not all. They were not able to do this because they suck or are mismanaged, poorly coached, etc. It is but a couple of steps in the road to recovery of a team in 10+ years of disarray. Why don't you take ANY business under similar circumstances and show more positive improvment. We have seen some kick ass things happen this year. Starting with breaking a 10ish year drought by beatin' Dallas. We have Defense that can shut down teams (albeit, not at the right time lately). We have an Offense that scored at will on the #1 D. It's not perfect and YES, still needs work. Much of what is needed will happen this off season. Yes, I am devastated by some of the loss's, but............ Danny is in check. The coaching staff will be in place for the third straight year. The salary sins of the past are being dealt with. We DON'T have to overhaul the team AGAIN this year I don't see anything but good stuff for this team!!!! To answer your original question, this is the team I am watching.

[Twilbert07]

This year's team definitely is an improvement over last year's.

However, this trend of losing close games (after winning the first three) is very disturbing and shows that something with the team is extremely flawed. We need to find out exactly what's wrong, or we're in for more a couple more seasons without going to the playoffs.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

This year's team definitely is an improvement over last year's.

However, this trend of losing close games (after winning the first three) is very disturbing and shows that something with the team is extremely flawed. We need to find out exactly what's wrong, or we're in for more a couple more seasons without going to the playoffs.

I agree with you in principle. I would split hairs with the word extreme and say it is still flawed. The difference is that we have Joe. He is not a magician. He has however got the team going the right direction. Just a note........I would much rather be losing close games than to be getting our ass kicked by everybody!!!!!! All the sins of the past cannot be corrected in a couple of seasons. It took 12 years to really F... it up

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I agree with you in principle. I would split hairs with the word extreme and say it is still flawed. The difference is that we have Joe. He is not a magician. He has however got the team going the right direction. Just a note........I would much rather be losing close games than to be getting our ass kicked by everybody!!!!!! All the sins of the past cannot be corrected in a couple of seasons. It took 12 years to really F... it up

That's a good point about how long it took to screw up the Skins. It will take a couple more years to work all that out of the system. I hope Gibbs sticks around to see it through because I do believe he can get us a fourth Super Bowl trophy.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

This year's team definitely is an improvement over last year's.

However, this trend of losing close games (after winning the first three) is very disturbing and shows that something with the team is extremely flawed. We need to find out exactly what's wrong, or we're in for more a couple more seasons without going to the playoffs.

I wouldn't say that losing those close games means that something is extremely flawed. If we lost those games by 14 points or more, then I would say something is extremely flawed. Losing games by 2 or 3 points, late in the fourth quarter is distressing, but I don't believe it means that something is way wrong. This team is still going through transition, like it or not. I believe we're expecting this team to be Super Bowl champions right from the start.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

I wouldn't say that losing those close games means that something is extremely flawed. If we lost those games by 14 points or more, then I would say something is extremely flawed. Losing games by 2 or 3 points, late in the fourth quarter is distressing, but I don't believe it means that something is way wrong. This team is still going through transition, like it or not. I believe we're expecting this team to be Super Bowl champions right from the start.

Maybe saying "extremely flawed" was a little, well, extreme.
However, something is wrong, and it seems to be getting worse in the past couple weeks. Trust me, I do not expect us to go to the Super Bowl this year or next. I just want us to continue to make progress toward that goal. Unfortunately in the past three weeks, we've moved in the wrong direction.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Maybe saying "extremely flawed" was a little, well, extreme.
However, something is wrong, and it seems to be getting worse in the past couple weeks. Trust me, I do not expect us to go to the Super Bowl this year or next. I just want us to continue to make progress toward that goal. Unfortunately in the past three weeks, we've moved in the wrong direction.

We are making progress. Not all progress is going to show up as wins unfortunately.