Browns pregame thread

[SunnySide]

The 6'1", 200-pound Troy Apke made a name for himself at the NFLPA game and then again at the NFL Scouting Combine, but we're still talking about a player who was an afterthought on film. Unless he can quickly improve his diagnosing skills and football IQ, he'll just be a track guy in pads.

POSITIVES

—Blew up the combine with a 4.34 in the 40-yard dash, 41-inch vertical jump and 6.56-second three-cone.

—Height, weight, speed prospect teams will hope can develop.

—Doesn't get scared in run support.

—Has ability to match up with tight ends at the line.

—Works like a smaller linebacker against the run and is active.



NEGATIVES

—Inconsistent producer and gets lost in space.

—Lots of missed tackles on tape from poor technique (dipping head).

—Football IQ appears low based on timing, angles and alignment.

—Stiff through transitions and moves more like a sprinter than a safety.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-redskins-pick

Apke was always a project and went higher than expected/deserved bc he ran a 4.34 40.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

The 6'1", 200-pound Troy Apke made a name for himself at the NFLPA game and then again at the NFL Scouting Combine, but we're still talking about a player who was an afterthought on film. Unless he can quickly improve his diagnosing skills and football IQ, he'll just be a track guy in pads.

POSITIVES

—Blew up the combine with a 4.34 in the 40-yard dash, 41-inch vertical jump and 6.56-second three-cone.

—Height, weight, speed prospect teams will hope can develop.

—Doesn't get scared in run support.

—Has ability to match up with tight ends at the line.

—Works like a smaller linebacker against the run and is active.



NEGATIVES

—Inconsistent producer and gets lost in space.

—Lots of missed tackles on tape from poor technique (dipping head).

—Football IQ appears low based on timing, angles and alignment.

—Stiff through transitions and moves more like a sprinter than a safety.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-redskins-pick

Apke was always a project and went higher than expected/deserved bc he ran a 4.34 40.

Speed doesn't do much when you're running after guys on their way to the end zone. Not a good scouting report, hopefully it's not indicative of his future. Time will tell if he was a wasted pick.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by mooby

Speed doesn't do much when you're running after guys on their way to the end zone. Not a good scouting report, hopefully it's not indicative of his future. Time will tell if he was a wasted pick.

Yeah, im fine taking a project guy in the 4th that has measurables like Apke has. But 4th was higher than most had him. Im not sure he will be a starter in this league but he should find a home on STs and be a serviceable back up. not a wasted or lost pick. (but give me a G or C in the 3-5 rounds every time).

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If Jack Conklin is back I take the Browns.

Hubbard vs. Sweat while worrying about their other pass rushers is going to spell a long day for our offense. That’s my key this week. Sweat is the kind of guy that Hubbard has a hard time with. I’m not terrified of their Dline. Our Oline has good practice in front of them each day with our line, but we can’t be 3rd and plus 5 against them and I’m confident we can run on them

this is an interesting matchup overall though.
Their big weapon is Terry McLaurin who will matchup against someone that knows him really well Denzel Ward. Advantage Ward.

The Washington plays call could give us problems. They seem to love crossing routes. Haskins can hit a slant better than anyone, but he makes a lot of rookie type mistakes downfield. We have a penchant for giving those up crossers and slants too easily and those routes expose our personnel flaws. They have a 3rd down back that is pretty good McKissick. He’s a matchup problem for us.

Haskins in many ways is like Baker. Looks fabulous one week throws are off the next. He misses high a lot. They have major line issues and will lineup a guy against Myles that may not be on NFL roster next season. Think about it That alone could Be worth 7 points.

they have started slowly both weeks. They can’t do that this week. Facing Chubb and Hunt with a deficit is lights out for you.

If it weren’t for a few of their dudes on the Dline this could be arguably the worst roster in the NFL and they are getting used to new system as well like we are.

If Conklin is back I’m thinking we are 27-17 winner. And I’m being nice
http://thebrownsboard.com/topic/5839...football-team/

^^ a good info fan post from our neighbors up north. Didnt know they were without Conklin.