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Old 10-02-2020, 11:09 AM   #1
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/qb/2020

He has been terrible by QBR, DYAR, and DVOA. Terrible.

The only QBs who have been worse are Jones and Wentz, depending on the metric.
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Old 10-02-2020, 01:30 PM   #2
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

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He has been terrible by QBR, DYAR, and DVOA. Terrible.

The only QBs who have been worse are Jones and Wentz, depending on the metric.
So you're saying we have the second-best QB in the division!
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Old 10-02-2020, 04:41 PM   #3
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

As far as I am concerned, this next game will be one to many. He says all of the right things during the week but shows nothing on Sunday.
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Old 10-02-2020, 01:38 PM   #4
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

Yeah Ron is trying to see if DH will show up and play well or will he pout and cave..
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Old 10-02-2020, 03:46 PM   #5
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

I think this week should be his last full game. If we are losing in a bad blowout, then bench him at halftime and try and do better next week.

If the game is close but Haskins struggles the whole game, then i think the decision should be made prior to the Rams game. There is still time that a QB change could spark our offense and win us a couple more games. The season isn't lost yet, but we aren't doing anything well with Haskins. I dare say he played better last year under Bill Callahan.
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I think this week should be his last full game. If we are losing in a bad blowout, then bench him at halftime and try and do better next week.

If the game is close but Haskins struggles the whole game, then i think the decision should be made prior to the Rams game. There is still time that a QB change could spark our offense and win us a couple more games. The season isn't lost yet, but we aren't doing anything well with Haskins. I dare say he played better last year under Bill Callahan.
Two things for the bold part - (1) Callahan wanted the team to run on all downs if possible, Haskins would only throw when it's 3rd down and long. (2) O'Connell had a full offseason and season to work with Haskins and it showed the benefits when Callahan finally allowed O'Connell to call plays in the last two (?) games.
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Old 10-02-2020, 06:26 PM   #7
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

Stop piling on.. with our secondary he'd have to score thirty points a game, the kid won't throw three interceptions in one game the rest of the season, remember we got some key players on defense out and the Ravens are gonna take it to us on the ground, we got one good receiver, no tight ends worth anything and running back by commitee, let the kid finish the season!
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/qb/2019

No, Haskins did not play better last year.
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Old 10-03-2020, 03:42 PM   #9
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

RR has been preaching culture change ever since he took the job.

If he tolerates Haskins poor play to a degree viewed as unfair in the locker room, he may as well wear a shirt that says Bruce/Dan 4eva!

I don't know what is fair or unfair but he should know with his wealth of experience and reputation as a tough player's coach. By fair, I don't mean the same as others. A 1st round QB pick is going to be treated differently than a 5th round Olineman.

He has to deal with Haskins in a manner consistent with the culture he is building.
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RR has been preaching culture change ever since he took the job.

If he tolerates Haskins poor play to a degree viewed as unfair in the locker room, he may as well wear a shirt that says Bruce/Dan 4eva!

I don't know what is fair or unfair but he should know with his wealth of experience and reputation as a tough player's coach. By fair, I don't mean the same as others. A 1st round QB pick is going to be treated differently than a 5th round Olineman.

He has to deal with Haskins in a manner consistent with the culture he is building.
RR is also rebuilding this team, and has repeatedly stated this publicly. He has already said there is a point where he'll move on from Haskin, but 3 games into the season is not that point If I were to guess, this point will be the bye week.
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

Remember, RR said that the situation of the division race is a factor, as well. If the other three teams, or just the Cowboys, lose this week then RR may determine to go for the division title in which case Haskins could be benched.
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NFL.com running a story that Haskins is on a short leash and Skins want to take advantage of their next five games after the Ravens.
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

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NFL.com running a story that Haskins is on a short leash and Skins want to take advantage of their next five games after the Ravens.
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https://www.nfl.com/news/washington-...es-to-struggle

Again, fans are crazy if Rivera gives him the whole season playing as he has. Don't expect to see Allen today, but this article implies it's a possibility. Haskins better get going.
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Re: How Many Games Should We Test Haskins?

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https://www.nfl.com/news/washington-...es-to-struggle

Again, fans are crazy if Rivera gives him the whole season playing as he has. Don't expect to see Allen today, but this article implies it's a possibility. Haskins better get going.
Why not? If the first half is a disaster for Haskins, it might make sense to get Allen snaps in a real game prior to starting him next week.
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Why not? If the first half is a disaster for Haskins, it might make sense to get Allen snaps in a real game prior to starting him next week.
I'm not suggesting I'm opposed to the idea but would be surprised if it happens. Think Haskins will get the whole game.
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