1st Presidential Debate Thread

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Some would say Trump has done more than enough wrong (where to even begin) to warrant extreme criticism.

Blaming Trump 100% for leftist groups such as Antifa burning down streets and rioting is disingenuous. It's just not reasonable. There is a difference between criticism and putting your fingers in your ears and yelling at Trump clouds.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Blaming Trump 100% for leftist groups such as Antifa burning down streets and rioting is disingenuous. It's just not reasonable. There is a difference between criticism and putting your fingers in your ears and yelling at Trump clouds.

Lol. Few bad apples involved with protests just like a few bad apples involved in the police force. Difference SD is that Trumps rhetoric is too blame. It started in Charlotte with fine people on both sides and has continued right up until last night with telling the actual terrorists like the whatever boys to stand pat. Biden on the other hand has never once condoned riots or violence of any kind. Not once.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lol. Few bad apples involved with protests just like a few bad apples involved in the police force. Difference SD is that Trumps rhetoric is too blame. It started in Charlotte with fine people on both sides and has continued right up until last night with telling the actual terrorists like the whatever boys to stand pat. Biden on the other hand has never once condoned riots or violence of any kind. Not once.

I don't know who the proud boys are, and I'm glad for that, but that is the worst name ever for a group. WTF?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't know who the proud boys are, and I'm glad for that, but that is the worst name ever for a group. WTF?

That doesnt pass the smell test. Sorry.

For that to be true, you would have to completely not follow news and politics.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

That doesnt pass the smell test. Sorry.

For that to be true, you would have to completely not follow news and politics.

Smell away my man. Why would I lie about that? Maybe I've heard the name before and didn't commit it to memory.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't know who the proud boys are, and I'm glad for that, but that is the worst name ever for a group. WTF?

It is terrible. Lol. Washington football team is better. Well it is less stupid.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Lol. Few bad apples involved with protests just like a few bad apples involved in the police force. Difference SD is that Trumps rhetoric is too blame. It started in Charlotte with fine people on both sides and has continued right up until last night with telling the actual terrorists like the whatever boys to stand pat. Biden on the other hand has never once condoned riots or violence of any kind. Not once.

Punch, if memory serves, the riots in Minneapolis started before Trump really even said anything about Floyd. Again, there is a difference between criticizing him as part of the problem and absolving everyone else, including the actual person starting a fire, etc., and blaming it all on Trump.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Blaming Trump 100% for leftist groups such as Antifa burning down streets and rioting is disingenuous. It's just not reasonable. There is a difference between criticism and putting your fingers in your ears and yelling at Trump clouds.

https://news.yahoo.com/proud-boys-ar...175248423.html


Proud Boys Member Arrested On Assault Charges After Trump Told Hate Group: 'Stand By'


A prominent member of the Proud Boys was arrested Wednesday in Portland, Oregon — less than a day after President Donald Trump publicly threw his support behind the hate group.

Alan James Swinney, 50, faces numerous charges, including felony assault and unlawful use of a weapon.

Video and photos show Swinney pointing a gun at protesters with his finger on the trigger during an Aug. 22 clash in Portland between far-right extremists and anti-fascist protesters. At the time, police did nothing.

But now, Swinney is being held in the Multnomah County Jail on six felony charges, including assault in the second degree and unlawful use of a weapon.

Though it wasn’t immediately clear if the arrest was connected to the Aug. 22 incident, Swinney also faces six misdemeanor charges including pointing a firearm at another person. The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office did not immediately return a request for comment.



During the first presidential debate between President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden on Tuesday night, Trump refused to condemn white supremacy and instead specifically endorsed the violent gang.

“Proud Boys, stand back and stand by,” Trump said.

Almost immediately, Proud Boys members began celebrating Trump’s apparent approval of their violent methods.

“Trump basically said to go fuck them up,” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys, said in a chat on the right-wing social media app Parler. “This makes me so happy.”

Swinney felt comfortable addressing his violent tactics in leaked chats provided to HuffPost in 2019.

“We’ll grow this group of patriots and we’ll never back down,” Swinney said in one of the chats. “If we win, it will make more patriots come to the next rally. We just need to go there and we’ll beat them. We’ll have enough to crush them at some point.”

Almost immediately, Proud Boys members began celebrating Trump’s apparent approval of their violent methods.

“Trump basically said to go fuck them up,” Joe Biggs, a leader of the Proud Boys, said in a chat on the right-wing social media app Parler. “This makes me so happy.”

Swinney felt comfortable addressing his violent tactics in leaked chats provided to HuffPost in 2019.

“We’ll grow this group of patriots and we’ll never back down,” Swinney said in one of the chats. “If we win, it will make more patriots come to the next rally. We just need to go there and we’ll beat them. We’ll have enough to crush them at some point.”

When asked about his calls for violence, Swinney told HuffPost at the time that Proud Boys members are “warriors” and that “Choir boys don’t go up against people like [anti-fascists]. It takes a person with a certain type of mindset.”

Swinney’s bail has been set at more than $500,000, according to jail records.