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Old 11-04-2020, 07:54 AM   #1
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After Pres Obama's first State of the Union I came on here praising him because I wanted to believe. But his words were fairly hollow, though very smooth.

I voted libertarian in 2012.

What I "want to hear" is an acknowledgement from both sides that the debate is not about the person but the discussions should be how do these two Americas find common ground when the views and ideas are so distinctly opposite.

The views and ideas are not new by any standard. One size fits all federal ruled government vs the rights of individuals and states is as old as our constitution. Individual responsibility vs shared obligations isn't a Trump thing or Obama thing, it is a view of life thing. USA independence or world interdependence has been around since the Monroe doctrine was formed and before that when George Washington warned of the dangers of becoming entangled in foreign disputes.

Both sides in the US have some valid positions, but someone (i don't know who or how) needs to span the central truths that 70% of Americans believe and create policies for those 65-70%, leaving the loud vocal minorities on BOTH sides out of the discussion.

I "want that" at least here on the Warpath we all can set aside the pettiness that the leaders of both parties (Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer are all petty in there own way) and discuss how to forge a workable common future path for the university educated and those educated by life, for those who live in downtown Baltimore and those who work on a farm in Kansas.

More people voted for Trump this time then last time. He will still lose the popular vote.
I believe alot of people who voted for trump were cursing the political system for making me vote for such a rotten person not because i like him, but because my ideas of how government should work are far more closely aligned with his policies than Biden's big government solutions.



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Well said Cred. I agree. Everytime a key moment arises where one party refuses to work with the other it widens the divide a little deeper. If we could all compromise and work together we could have an America where everybody could succeed, but I don't believe that's possible without the 1% increasing their burden.
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:57 AM   #2
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Re: Election Day Thread - Nov. 3, 2020

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After Pres Obama's first State of the Union I came on here praising him because I wanted to believe. But his words were fairly hollow, though very smooth.

I voted libertarian in 2012.

What I "want to hear" is an acknowledgement from both sides that the debate is not about the person but the discussions should be how do these two Americas find common ground when the views and ideas are so distinctly opposite.

The views and ideas are not new by any standard. One size fits all federal ruled government vs the rights of individuals and states is as old as our constitution. Individual responsibility vs shared obligations isn't a Trump thing or Obama thing, it is a view of life thing. USA independence or world interdependence has been around since the Monroe doctrine was formed and before that when George Washington warned of the dangers of becoming entangled in foreign disputes.

Both sides in the US have some valid positions, but someone (i don't know who or how) needs to span the central truths that 70% of Americans believe and create policies for those 65-70%, leaving the loud vocal minorities on BOTH sides out of the discussion.

I "want that" at least here on the Warpath we all can set aside the pettiness that the leaders of both parties (Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer are all petty in there own way) and discuss how to forge a workable common future path for the university educated and those educated by life, for those who live in downtown Baltimore and those who work on a farm in Kansas.

More people voted for Trump this time then last time. He will still lose the popular vote.
I believe alot of people who voted for trump were cursing the political system for making me vote for such a rotten person not because i like him, but because my ideas of how government should work are far more closely aligned with his policies than Biden's big government solutions.



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Preach CRED. Gesus, what you wrote is a beautiful manifesto for the middle America. Seriously you wrote out in words and thoughts I couldn’t and wish I could articulate ... but I disagree with Obama hollow part lol

I’m too tired to answer the call of your question and try and identify specifics of common ground right now

Well said
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Old 11-04-2020, 05:53 PM   #3
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So for everyone who talks about trump supporters as cultists etc. Does the fact that he will still win over 60 million votes even after 4 years of when is enough enough coverage give you any pause at all to reconsider your view of Trump's supporters?

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I am surprised when I see the 67 million support his rhetoric. To me it show me just how out of place I am in the United States.
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Old 11-04-2020, 06:39 PM   #4
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I am surprised when I see the 67 million support his rhetoric. To me it show me just how out of place I am in the United States.
This. It means that THAT many people decided that racist, sexist, illegal at times and downright despicable behavior is OK in their book as long as it's "their" party. I'm more appalled that he gained MORE votes than last time. I can see being fooled the first time, but after ALLLLL the shit he's said and done in four years, people said, "That's my guy."
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This. It means that THAT many people decided that racist, sexist, illegal at times and downright despicable behavior is OK in their book as long as it's "their" party. I'm more appalled that he gained MORE votes than last time. I can see being fooled the first time, but after ALLLLL the shit he's said and done in four years, people said, "That's my guy."
This. He actually gained supporters with his behavior.

Biden might win, but the underlying message is much worse. Almost 70 million Americans endorse his "talking out of his ass" behavior as POTUS. And if there's one thing the last 4 years have taught me, it's that anything goes when conservatives are in power. Something tells me Biden won't be held to the same standard though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...eb2x&context=3

Literally wanting to stop counting votes because Trump is winning? I can guess there will be at least one member here who endorses this strategy of "they're cheating the election by counting votes."
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:31 PM   #6
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Georgia is getting real tight.
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Old 11-04-2020, 08:11 PM   #7
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This. He actually gained supporters with his behavior.

Biden might win, but the underlying message is much worse. Almost 70 million Americans endorse his "talking out of his ass" behavior as POTUS. And if there's one thing the last 4 years have taught me, it's that anything goes when conservatives are in power. Something tells me Biden won't be held to the same standard though.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...eb2x&context=3

Literally wanting to stop counting votes because Trump is winning? I can guess there will be at least one member here who endorses this strategy of "they're cheating the election by counting votes."
Yup he expanded the base collecting the largest minority vote for the GOP in like 30 plus years.
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Old 11-04-2020, 09:02 PM   #8
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreak...eb2x&context=3

Literally wanting to stop counting votes because Trump is winning? I can guess there will be at least one member here who endorses this strategy of "they're cheating the election by counting votes."
Conservatives are real quiet about this. What a bunch of scumbags.
Anything to steal another election.
Conservatives have zero integrity and will do anything to push their racist agenda.

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Old 11-05-2020, 09:11 AM   #9
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I am surprised when I see the 67 million support his rhetoric. To me it show me just how out of place I am in the United States.
I'm more surprised anyone actually voted for Kanye
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Old 11-05-2020, 04:24 PM   #10
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I am surprised when I see the 67 million support his rhetoric. To me it show me just how out of place I am in the United States.
This is a really bad take. First, Biden will win...that’s big. But the Democrats way underperformed again...why? If you expect people to vote for defund the police, socialism, and a government back healthcare bc dems Obamacare was a major, yuuuuuuuggggeeeee policy failure...then you don’t get it. People are voting for Trump, they are voting against policy.

Policy and platform is what matters. When I see people crying about I can’t believe “trump got this many votes”...it’s a major blind spot bc the alternative offers so very little.

The data is there...Trump expanded the base especially with minority voters. It’s because identity politics is clown based shit, ideas and policy matter more.
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Old 11-05-2020, 04:38 PM   #11
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This is a really bad take. First, Biden will win...that’s big. But the Democrats way underperformed again....
Your ignorance continues to amaze me .


Winning back the Presidency = under performing to chico .



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Old 11-04-2020, 06:40 AM   #12
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We are up BIG, but they are trying to STEAL the Election. We will never let them do it. Votes cannot be cast after the Polls are closed!
Literally can't believe you guys support a man willing to undermine national faith in our election for his own benefit.

Imagine if it was a Dem saying the only way he could lose is if Republicans committed massive voter fraud.
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JFC...are you telling me Bigly is still in this thing? Lol

I swear the Dems can’t beat a widely unpopular president in a year of something never seen before like Covid...if your a dem you have to question a lot within your party.
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:45 AM   #14
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JFC...are you telling me Bigly is still in this thing? Lol

I swear the Dems can’t beat a widely unpopular president in a year of something never seen before like Covid...if your a dem you have to question a lot within your party.
I do already, my views don't align with the party as a whole and I think they propped up Biden because there is no one candidate that stands out. The platform is stale, even if Biden wins the only thing he's gonna do different is not be Trump.

The question now becomes, if Trump wins who runs in 4 years? Is this the new direction of the Republican party? Because I look at how Trump how you look at BLM, in my eyes Trump represents the radical side of the Republican party.
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I do already, my views don't align with the party as a whole and I think they propped up Biden because there is no one candidate that stands out. The platform is stale, even if Biden wins the only thing he's gonna do different is not be Trump.

The question now becomes, if Trump wins who runs in 4 years? Is this the new direction of the Republican party? Because I look at how Trump how you look at BLM, in my eyes Trump represents the radical side of the Republican party.
2024 is Nikki Haley...she will win too.


BLM the organization is trash Mooby. You can read their charter and it has Marxist roots. You don’t think that’s radical? Do you think rioting, violence looting is acceptable? Do you think them not disavowing the violence and working with group who promote confrontation is not radical?

Do you know what radical means?
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