Thoughts on Ramsey and Brunell...

[Beemnseven]

[QUOTE=skinsguy]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

Because Parcells hasn't been away from the game in over a decade.

i don't buy that excuse. You don't lose all of your knowledge of football in a decade of being away from the game. Football is still the same as it was in 1992. Sure, the cap and personnel may change things, but when it comes to actual game play and preparing the team, if you've got the fundamentals down, your chances are much better.

Right now, this team is not adhering to one of the fundamentals -- play 4 complete quarters.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

[QUOTE=Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

i don't buy that excuse. You don't lose all of your knowledge of football in a decade of being away from the game. Football is still the same as it was in 1992. Sure, the cap and personnel may change things, but when it comes to actual game play and preparing the team, if you've got the fundamentals down, your chances are much better.

Right now, this team is not adhering to one of the fundamentals -- play 4 complete quarters.

Obviously, I agree that the team isn't adhering to one of the fundamentals --playing 4 quarters. At least they haven't been doing so recently; they managed to do so early in the season (i.e. the Dallas game).

But, to say that football hasn't changed since 1992 is (IMHO) wrong. Defenses are so much faster and blitz far more often with far more players. As Jansen said last offseason, we ran a 1992 offense last year. Or, as Portis said, the Browns knew exactly what was coming. What obviously worked so well in 1992 hasn't been working recently. By the same token, offenses have changed considerably since 1992. Everyone (defense and offense) on the field bigger, stronger, and faster.

Just like the jump from college to the pros is so difficult for so many talented rookie quarterbacks, I imagine there is a similar learning curve for coaches who are coming from a 1992 league to today's league. I'm willing to give Gibbs (basically a 1st round, 2nd season coach) another season to adjust before I abandon him.

[skinsguy]

[QUOTE=Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

i don't buy that excuse. You don't lose all of your knowledge of football in a decade of being away from the game. Football is still the same as it was in 1992. Sure, the cap and personnel may change things, but when it comes to actual game play and preparing the team, if you've got the fundamentals down, your chances are much better.

Right now, this team is not adhering to one of the fundamentals -- play 4 complete quarters.

You misunderstood what I was saying. Gibbs didn't lose knowledge of football, but there is a period of adjustment to go through when you have been away from something for over a decade. That is an absolute fact. If Gibbs had coached in college or took a lesser coaching job in the NFL, then I would say there is no excuse; but that isn't the case.

The fundementals of football and the basics of how the game is played has not changed since that point. Each team still runs and passes the ball to score touchdowns. Rules have changed, however. Now, maybe defensive schemes have morphed into something a bit more complexed than what they were ten or fifteen years ago, but that is where Gibbs says that it is like him having to learn to coach all over again. He is taken his prior knowledge - knowledge he has not lost - and applying it to come up with tweaks in his system to counter the defensive schemes. So far for the most part - it has worked. But, the players have to do their jobs. Gibbs isn't committing holding penalities or personal fouls and Gibbs is not the one dropping the passes or fumbling.

This offense can score the points - it has proven that against the number one defense in the league - so if it is a point with Gibbs and his system being too old to work in this league, that is a bunch of B.S.