The Too Soon 2021 NFL Draft Thread

[Skinsfanatic]

Originally Posted by hagams

There's so many scenario's to consider for an actual mock.

Three things that keep running through my head about the upcoming draft is that:

1) We shouldn't waste our 1st pick on a QB. I think about how many successful QB's have come in the 1st round vs. the amount that have came in later rounds. If it is not "our guy", don't select him. With this pick (if we don't trade it) we need to select the best player available.

2) Do we need to draft a QB? Jack Fromm (Georgia) was drafted by the Bills and is currently on their practice squad. Josh Allen's success may have dropped the Bills value on Fromm, and should be available for a low-cost trade.

3) Trade back our 1st and make as many O-line, TE, and WR selections we can. The defense will be lit next year with Landon coming back. Even if we trade him, I'm fine with sticking with Curl. We need to shore-up the O-line, or nobody that we sign or draft will stand a chance.

-Mike-

If you wanted Fromm, why not just sign him off their practice squad to the 53 man roster for week 17? Isn't that how that works, or am I misunderstanding?

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

If you wanted Fromm, why not just sign him off their practice squad to the 53 man roster for week 17? Isn't that how that works, or am I misunderstanding?

teams can now protect 4-5 PS players. not 100% sure as I didnt google it to verify

edit -- you can protect 4 players. Fromm is on the Bills active squad as QB3. I looked this up a few weeks ago .. id say 75% of the teams now go with 3 active QBs vs 10 plus years ago very few did. The clear trend is carrying 3 and it makes sense. Perhaps the new PS protections will allow teams to put the QB3 on the PS vs active roster. Well see.

[VTSkins1961]

My thoughts are this about drafting QB's. Not one Ohio State QB ever drafted has done well in NFL. Heisman Trophy winners mostly are busts, there are a few exceptions...
Wilson will be gone by the time we pick and most likely Jones as well. If we really want to draft a QB we are going to have to trade up for him

[GridIron26]

Despite the fact we need a QB badly, we should not force ourselves to draft a QB with our #1 pick (or trade up unless it's a good deal). We have multiple needs all over the team, so we need to go BPA in the draft. It is better to build a good team and need a QB, than risk our picks (forced draft or trade up) on QBs that might or might not become a franchise QB and be stuck with multiple needs for the next few years.

[AnonEmouse]

Here's a thought. If the 9ers do draft QB in rd1 they will surely be looking to trade or release Garoppolo. If he's let go, would he fit here as QB1 with AS as backup next year, then draft QB in 2022?

[MTK]

Garoppolo isn't very good IMO

[sdskinsfan2001]

Trade preference = Stafford
FA preference = Fitzmagic
Draft preference = Won't be anyone I'd want at 19. Go BPA. Bring back Alex and Heinicke/Allen. If someone is drafted later in the draft, only keep 1 of Heinicke/Allen

Note - I don't know what to make of Mac Jones and Trask. I wouldn't get upset if we picked either of them at 19, but it will probably be forced, with a lot better players still available.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Trade preference = Stafford
FA preference = Fitzmagic
Draft preference = Won't be anyone I'd want at 19. Go BPA. Bring back Alex and Heinicke/Allen. If someone is drafted later in the draft, only keep 1 of Heinicke/Allen

Note - I don't know what to make of Mac Jones and Trask. I wouldn't get upset if we picked either of them at 19, but it will probably be forced, with a lot better players still available.

Isnt Stafford a free agent??

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Isnt Stafford a free agent??

No, not the FA list I saw. Think because of new GM and/or HC there is some chatter about him possibly being available in a trade. Think he has a year or 2 left on his contract.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Isnt Stafford a free agent??

Not until 2023.

Looks like he's due 33 Mil next year, and 26 Mil the following year...

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Not until 2023.

Looks like he's due 33 Mil next year, and 26 Mil the following year...

Well it comes down to this for me, do you think he is as good as Tannehill. Same age as him. That's my bar for signing a FA QB and in my opinion if Stafford was starting here for 16 games we would be 11-4 right now. His injury history is the only thing that would worry me, and you can draft a QB in the middle rounds while he is on that 2 year deal

[Chief X_Phackter]

Of course it all revolves around ALEX. Earlier in the year I was good with him coming back next year as the starter, because the team seemed to turn the corner when he took the reins. However, as the season progressed, even though he gave this team the best chance to win, he regressed. I am now of the opinion that you can't count on him to be the starter next year (although I'm no doctor and maybe he'll be just fine), and for me, if you can't count on him to be the starter because of health, that means I don't want him as the backup either.

Of the available FAs, I'm mostly intrigued by Fitzmagic or Tyrod Taylor. I personally would lean towards Tyrod because of his dual threat capability, he's six years younger, and he has less wear and tear. He's had an interesting career, and his numbers look decent overall. He entered the league as Flacco's backup for four years, then went to be the starter at Buffalo for three. They were 3rd, 3rd, and 2nd in that division owned by the Patriots, and their defense was nothing like what we will likely have here next year. He never had a chance in Cleveland as they drafted Baker. He never had a chance in LA as they had Rivers, then drafted Herbert. He would be an immediate upgrade to the QB room (as would a lot of guys).

[Pervis_Griffith]

I have no idea what the Skins should do here ... but ... I'd rather use the room in our salary cap over the next couple of years keeping our D-Line as in tact as we can, as those rookie contracts expire.

Which means finding your QB in the draft. Having them learn from Alex Smith? That's pretty ideal too.

I like the ND State kid for upside. Athletic enough to pass and run. No INT's in a season? That's hard to do at any level. Will he be around though? Probably not.

I like Mac Jones from Bama.

Beyond these two, nothing really excites me of the upper tier college QBs.

Could we find a Russell Wilson later on? Maybe ... but it's hard to count on that.


I think we have found our main TE in Logan Thomas. I wouldn't spend early draft picks on that position, focusing instead on LB, CB, QB, OLine, and WR.

[skinsfaninok]

2021 FA WR Ranks
1- Chris Godwin
2- Allen Robinson
3- JuJu
4- Golladay
5- Will Fuller
6- Corey Davis
7- Curtis Samuel
8- Marvin Jones
9- TY Hilton
10- Sammy Watkins
11- Rashard Higgins
12- AJ Green
13- Alex Erickson
14- Josh Reynolds
15- Perriman
16- Kendrick Bourne
17- Agholor

[Chief X_Phackter]

Of course it all revolves around ALEX. Earlier in the year I was good with him coming back next year as the starter, because the team seemed to turn the corner when he took the reins. However, as the season progressed, even though he gave this team the best chance to win, he regressed. I am now of the opinion that you can't count on him to be the starter next year (although I'm no doctor and maybe he'll be just fine), and for me, if you can't count on him to be the starter because of health, that means I don't want him as the backup either.