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View Poll Results: Starting QB: Opening Day 2006
Brunell 64 57.66%
Ramsey 5 4.50%
Campbell 39 35.14%
Other (who) 3 2.70%
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:19 AM   #1
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I don't think Heath Schuler ever got a fair shake.

Let's bring him back - I mean, what the hell!!?
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:21 AM   #2
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I don't think Heath Schuler ever got a fair shake.

Let's bring him back - I mean, what the hell!!?
You'd like that - wouldn't you? More fodder for your "articles"...
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:21 AM   #3
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't multiple teams after Mark Brunell? And we rushed to sign him before anyone else did?
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:38 AM   #4
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't multiple teams after Mark Brunell? And we rushed to sign him before anyone else did?
Yea exactly if we didn't get brunell we probally be in the mist of the Kurt Warner Experence right now.
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Old 12-02-2005, 11:59 AM   #5
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I just dont understand...why a game of semantics? We signed Mark Brunell to make us win now. If we are not winning now...then the premise for signing Mark Brunell is no longer valid...and it would have been more beneficial to see whether Ramsey could play. Its not really a game of semantics...because the distinction is that we went out and signed Brunell..and gave up a lot to get him in the process...

If he was already on the roster when gibbs got here...and then was putting up good numbers this year...then i would agree with you 100%...It would not be fair to judge Brunell...say all the losing is his fault or whatever...

But based on the fact that we went out and got HIM...and gave up a ton in the process...i think it is completely legit to look at the teams results since he's been here...and say you know...if i had to give up all of that again...just to have a losing team...i wouldnt do it. If you agree with that...then signing Brunell was a mistake
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:29 PM   #6
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I just dont understand...why a game of semantics? We signed Mark Brunell to make us win now. If we are not winning now...then the premise for signing Mark Brunell is no longer valid...and it would have been more beneficial to see whether Ramsey could play. Its not really a game of semantics...because the distinction is that we went out and signed Brunell..and gave up a lot to get him in the process...

If he was already on the roster when gibbs got here...and then was putting up good numbers this year...then i would agree with you 100%...It would not be fair to judge Brunell...say all the losing is his fault or whatever...

But based on the fact that we went out and got HIM...and gave up a ton in the process...i think it is completely legit to look at the teams results since he's been here...and say you know...if i had to give up all of that again...just to have a losing team...i wouldnt do it. If you agree with that...then signing Brunell was a mistake

We signed Mark Brunell because we felt he gave us the best chance to win. We have also signed other players to help us to win. My question to you is this: going by what you stated, should the Redskins end this season without a playoff appearance, then should we not cut every player that we have paid tons of money to? It only makes sense. Why would you only cut Brunell - who has been doing his job - and not cut Moss, Portis, Springs, Carlos Rogers, etc.....do you see my point? This is a team sport. You win as a team, you lose as a team. If Brunell was playing as bad as he did last year, I would see a reason to talk about benching him or cutting him, but that hasn't been the case.

You also have to keep in mind that this team had no veteran qbs before last year. Every good team has a good veteran quarterback either starting or as back-up. The vets are there not only to play or to be plugged in should the starter go down, but also as teachers to help further develop the younger quarterbacks. There are things that the older quarterbacks can show the younger guys that maybe the coaches can't show. That is why it is important to sign a veteran quarterback, no matter the situation. With that said, I would have rather had Mark Brunell than any other qb that was on the market at that time.
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We signed Mark Brunell because we felt he gave us the best chance to win. We have also signed other players to help us to win. My question to you is this: going by what you stated, should the Redskins end this season without a playoff appearance, then should we not cut every player that we have paid tons of money to? It only makes sense. Why would you only cut Brunell - who has been doing his job - and not cut Moss, Portis, Springs, Carlos Rogers, etc.....do you see my point? This is a team sport. You win as a team, you lose as a team.
I'm just curious - do you feel that QBs are held to the same standard as other skill positions?

I really don't think that's the case, but that seems to be what you are arguing. Barry Sanders didn't get benched because he produced. QBs, however, get benched or cut despite talent if they don't produce wins (Jeff George?).

Granted, I could be wrong, but I don't think this discussion is going anywhere if everyone is operating off of different assumptions.
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Yea exactly if we didn't get brunell we probally be in the mist of the Kurt Warner Experence right now.

hahaha...and why oh why the Kurt Warner era????? Why not the Ramsey era??? He was a 1st Rounder...i mean did he come out of college with a sign on his back that read destined to never play. People ought to realize that going out and getting a veteran guy while we had a 1st rounder entering his 3rd year in the league was a choice...rather than a necessity and in my opinion as it stand right now...it looks like we made the wrong choice.
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People ought to realize that going out and getting a veteran guy while we had a 1st rounder entering his 3rd year in the league was a choice...rather than a necessity and in my opinion as it stand right now...it looks like we made the wrong choice.
This is where I disagree with you (at this point) and think that Matty is on point. MB has played well enough to start next year, IMO. If he doesn't make the playoffs next year, then I will most likely agree the decision was wrong. However, I'm withholding judgment until that point.
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hahaha...and why oh why the Kurt Warner era????? Why not the Ramsey era??? He was a 1st Rounder...i mean did he come out of college with a sign on his back that read destined to never play. People ought to realize that going out and getting a veteran guy while we had a 1st rounder entering his 3rd year in the league was a choice...rather than a necessity and in my opinion as it stand right now...it looks like we made the wrong choice.
Because Gibbs obviously saw something in Ramsey that he did not like and felt we needed a veteran.. If you can't understand that Ramsey was not, is not and will never be an option under Gibbs then im sorry.
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Old 12-02-2005, 12:42 PM   #11
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I don't think Heath Schuler ever got a fair shake.

Let's bring him back - I mean, what the hell!!?
Hey, Sal....please forgive me for being so rude. On the behalf of me and my colleagues, welcome to the board.

Your "hindsight" will be much appreciated.
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