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When is Enough ,Enough?

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Old 12-19-2020, 05:46 PM   #1
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Re: When is Enough ,Enough?

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I want existing immigration laws to be enforced, anyone crossing the border claiming asylum must be returned back to a country that borders their country they are fleeing per asylum rules so only Mexican or Canadians could claim asylum and have us hear their case.
I agree with this 100%. In regards to immigration in general, it's absolutely pathetic that the sides haven't been able to make an agreement towards strengthening enforcement of our immigration laws and some sort of pathway for immigrants already here. Sometimes I just think the parties don't actually want to get things done. Just want to play to their base.

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I get frustrated with the status quo element of the democratic party. There are plenty of young people with fresh ideas in the party and yet they keep electing the same stale old, white leadership. I find a lot of them (I'm looking at you Pelosi) to be hypocritical. They talk a good game but never commit to real change. Look at climate change. Every major political party in every democracy except the US can get shit done on that and Pelosi flat refuses to even address it but claims she is a proponent for sustainability. Schumer is a puppet and a wimp I have never seen a senator from NY literally the financial and social capital of the world with an inability to drive change. Their leadership and the push to the coastal elite as the base has driven the loss of blue collar and rural voters. Both of whom are widely ignored by both parties. I really get why they overwhelmingly went for Trump, he has the only one to speak directly too them. This might seem like I don't like them because they aren't liberal enough and maybe so. I have no problem with moderates but with out deviation from the norm progress cannot be made.
D.C. is the home for old and stale. Agreed. Both sides. Voters have to be more willing to vote out incumbents.
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I agree with this 100%. In regards to immigration in general, it's absolutely pathetic that the sides haven't been able to make an agreement towards strengthening enforcement of our immigration laws and some sort of pathway for immigrants already here. Sometimes I just think the parties don't actually want to get things done. Just want to play to their base.



D.C. is the home for old and stale. Agreed. Both sides. Voters have to be more willing to vote out incumbents.
IMO politicians look the other way on immigration for two reasons a. we need immigrants for the work force for myriad of reasons. b. Businesses both large and small support the hiring of undocumented workers to be exploited for cheap labor. Like you said we need to have a pathway (it doesn't have to be citizenship but at least legal status).

Not just DC. Baltimore has had two of the last three majors leave for unethical reasons. Yet the city continues to elect the same platform over and over (I do have some hopes for the new mayor we will see). Republicans should find a way to improve their standing in cities with large African American populations. It might mean being more centrist in some values that they have in the past been uncompromising in but if you look at European conservative parties those platforms would resonate here in the U.S.
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