When is Enough ,Enough?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I get frustrated with the status quo element of the democratic party. There are plenty of young people with fresh ideas in the party and yet they keep electing the same stale old, white leadership. I find a lot of them (I'm looking at you Pelosi) to be hypocritical. They talk a good game but never commit to real change. Look at climate change. Every major political party in every democracy except the US can get shit done on that and Pelosi flat refuses to even address it but claims she is a proponent for sustainability. Schumer is a puppet and a wimp I have never seen a senator from NY literally the financial and social capital of the world with an inability to drive change. Their leadership and the push to the coastal elite as the base has driven the loss of blue collar and rural voters. Both of whom are widely ignored by both parties. I really get why they overwhelmingly went for Trump, he has the only one to speak directly too them. This might seem like I don't like them because they aren't liberal enough and maybe so. I have no problem with moderates but with out deviation from the norm progress cannot be made.

The single biggest issue that every citizen (i believe) would agree on in a heartbeat is term limits for senators. It should be no more than 18 years in the Senate. Biggest ongoing mistake by the founding fathers - although it really took effect once senators became publicly elected.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The single biggest issue that every citizen (i believe) would agree on in a heartbeat is term limits for senators. It should be no more than 18 years in the Senate. Biggest ongoing mistake by the founding fathers - although it really took effect once senators became publicly elected.

LOL, I agree on term limits but no more than two terms three at max, 18 years that's funny! No more than ten years on the Supreme Court! I would like to add a flat tax across the board.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL, I agree on term limits but no more than two terms three at max, 18 years that's funny! No more than ten years on the Supreme Court! I would like to add a flat tax across the board.

3 terms for a Senator = 18 years. I am ok with 2 terms(12 years) as well. Supreme court should be 20 to 25 years, to prevent crazy turnover of legal jurisprudence. Call me an ageist, but all federal positions (including President LOL) should have a mandatory retirement at no older than 80 years, but I would be ok down to 75.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

3 terms for a Senator = 18 years. I am ok with 2 terms(12 years) as well. Supreme court should be 20 to 25 years, to prevent crazy turnover of legal jurisprudence. Call me an ageist, but all federal positions (including President LOL) should have a mandatory retirement at no older than 80 years, but I would be ok down to 75.

Actually thought is was 4 years a term so I apologize but 12 to me is still to long

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Actually thought is was 4 years a term so I apologize but 12 to me is still to long

I agree. I would be fine with doing 5 year senate terms, max 10 years and change half the senate each election. Since every state has 2, 1 seat in each state is up for election every election. It would also make the senate seats not follow the the presidential cycle for more diversity

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL, I agree on term limits but no more than two terms three at max, 18 years that's funny! No more than ten years on the Supreme Court! I would like to add a flat tax across the board.

Yesss!!! I want to go out agreeing with each other. Flat tax is the way to go! I would add to that, no tax on the 1st 40K for individual filers and the 1st 80k for joint filers. And that's it. No waivers, write-offs, etc. On the 1st 40 or 80K, no one pays any federal taxes.

IMO a flat tax with a raised floor, protects Americans that need to be protected the most and eliminates people that can pay their taxes from BS writeoffs.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Yesss!!! I want to go out agreeing with each other. Flat tax is the way to go! I would add to that, no tax on the 1st 40K for individual filers and the 1st 80k for joint filers. And that's it. No waivers, write-offs, etc. On the 1st 40 or 80K, no one pays any federal taxes.

IMO a flat tax with a raised floor, protects Americans that need to be protected the most and eliminates people that can pay their taxes from BS writeoffs.

Holy Shit ! This is scary.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The single biggest issue that every citizen (i believe) would agree on in a heartbeat is term limits for senators. It should be no more than 18 years in the Senate. Biggest ongoing mistake by the founding fathers - although it really took effect once senators became publicly elected.

I would agree that term limits would be a great idea. Have no problem for 3 terms for a senator that is more than reasonable. I'd like it for the house too. Maybe 5 terms. Now all we need is a politician able to get a legislation through with it.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I would agree that term limits would be a great idea. Have no problem for 3 terms for a senator that is more than reasonable. I'd like it for the house too. Maybe 5 terms. Now all we need is a politician able to get a legislation through with it.

It could be done through a constitutional convention by the states. Thinking about it, I really like this concept:

House - 2 year terms, 5 max = 10 years in house
Senate - 5 year terms, 2 max = 10 years in senate
President - 4 year terms, 2 max = 8 years

Max Total Federal service all elected levels 20 years - Vice President kind of throughs a wrench in this if their terms are counted

SCOTUS - 15 year term with a 10 year extension granted by peer review (I would make it consist of the 1 judge from each state supreme court, and the fellow SCOTUS judges)

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution

[mooby]

I'm glad we can all agree on term limits.

I would settle for 25 year limits, as 25-30 years is basically a career in gov't positions anyways.

It's fucked up the President has a 2 term limit, but Congress/SCOTUS have nothing. We need to make this happen.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm glad we can all agree on term limits.

I would settle for 25 year limits, as 25-30 years is basically a career in gov't positions anyways.

It's fucked up the President has a 2 term limit, but Congress/SCOTUS have nothing. We need to make this happen.

25 years in the SC, Senate , Congress or President is way , way tooooooooooooooooo long!

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

It could be done through a constitutional convention by the states. Thinking about it, I really like this concept:

House - 2 year terms, 5 max = 10 years in house
Senate - 5 year terms, 2 max = 10 years in senate
President - 4 year terms, 2 max = 8 years

Max Total Federal service all elected levels 20 years - Vice President kind of throughs a wrench in this if their terms are counted

SCOTUS - 15 year term with a 10 year extension granted by peer review (I would make it consist of the 1 judge from each state supreme court, and the fellow SCOTUS judges)

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution

That would be awesome but I am not sure a constitutional convention is any more plausible. I can dream though.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

That would be awesome but I am not sure a constitutional convention is any more plausible. I can dream though.

28 states have called for one. If there was the type of social media outcry for term limits, and other needed amendments, that we have seen for many other causes it would have happened by now.

https://www.coloradofiscal.org/2019/...0be%20convened.