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Old 12-02-2005, 11:28 PM   #31
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Re: Just a thought, but....do we consider trading LaVar?

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arrington is the most beloved player on the redskins. i was at the 49ers game when lavar was finally put in to play, the crowed stood and cheered as loud as i've ever heard. the front office would piss off alot of skins fans, including myself, if they traded lavar. plus lavar is the best linebacker on the skins, marcus being a close 2nd, it would hurt the defense to trade him. the skins defense needs some defensive ends, free agency and the draft will be crucial this off season.
he is the most popular player you will see more arrington jerseys in fedex than any other player and i am one like u that would be extremely upset if he was traded ..ty for saying all this!
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:27 AM   #32
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arrington is the most beloved player on the redskins. i was at the 49ers game when lavar was finally put in to play, the crowed stood and cheered as loud as i've ever heard. the front office would piss off alot of skins fans, including myself, if they traded lavar. plus lavar is the best linebacker on the skins, marcus being a close 2nd, it would hurt the defense to trade him. the skins defense needs some defensive ends, free agency and the draft will be crucial this off season.
i was there as well. he felt so good when he heard everyone cheering, and i was proud to have him on the skins he gets traded, then there is gonna be a lot of anger towards the organization
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:38 AM   #33
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Re: Just a thought, but....do we consider trading LaVar?

Paul, I don't think it's such a bad idea, but I tend to agree with the sentiments of those who say that you'll only sacrifice the linebacking corps for an improved D-line, and that's assuming that the draft picks all pan out.

Nonetheless, if a team offered something absurd, like two first rounders, I wouldn't blink -- and there'd be some disappointed Redskin fans with worthless Arrington jerseys.
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:50 AM   #34
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Re: Just a thought, but....do we consider trading LaVar?

make lavar line up at DE and blindy rush into the back field, he's super quick, so he can cover up some mistakes. trading him means a massive cap hit, and doing that while absorbing an elite DE's contract (which would be even bigger) could turn into cap suicide.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:48 AM   #35
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Re: Just a thought, but....do we consider trading LaVar?

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make lavar line up at DE and blindy rush into the back field, he's super quick, so he can cover up some mistakes. trading him means a massive cap hit, and doing that while absorbing an elite DE's contract (which would be even bigger) could turn into cap suicide.
This is my kind of thinking. We need to maximize the use we get out of our roster. Lavar was incredibly successful lining up as DE on 3rd down situations under Marvin Lewis. I believe that on third downs rather than subbing out lavar for Chris Clemons. We should put Lavar in as DE, and throw Clemons at the weak side linebacker. Then Lavar immediately draws the double...and frees up a linebacker/corner/saftey blitz from whatever side he is on.
I havnt seen that yet... any thoughts why?
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Old 12-03-2005, 02:18 PM   #36
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I don't think LaVar figures in the Redskins future anyway, so trade him for draft picks and get some much-needed help at defensive end and at tight end.
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:26 PM   #37
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Let's see. The Vikings traded Randy Moss for a player no one remembers and draft picks that may or may not pan out. How did that work out? Madden called it "addition by subtraction."

A better idea is to keep your stars, build the talent base and find role players to fill your holes. It takes 2 to 4 seasons for this to pan out, but you keep your core group together longer and get further ahead. The team should have put more effort in keeping Antonio Pierce to complement Lavar.

On the other hand, I lived in Minnesota in '89 when the Vikings dropped their drawers (7 draft picks and three players) to get Herschel Walker from the Cowboys. The Boys parlayed the draft picks with other teams to get Emmit Smith, Russell Maryland, Darren Woodson, Clayton Holmes and Kevin Smith -- and of course three Super Bowl rings. The Vikings were a finesse team that never made proper use of Walker. The Cowboys replaced Walker with a Hall of Famer to-be. Any player is expendable for a ridiculous offer.

The Moral?
  1. This trade only works if the team gets a LB talent equal to Arrington. Building the line at the expense of linebacker is not an improvement.
  2. Fantasy football trades are not how to build up a franchise.
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Let's see. The Vikings traded Randy Moss for a player no one remembers and draft picks that may or may not pan out. How did that work out? Madden called it "addition by subtraction."
MLB napoleon harris. 1st round pick a few years ago, good player.
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Old 12-05-2005, 10:59 AM   #39
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Re: Just a thought, but....do we consider trading LaVar?

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arrington is the most beloved player on the redskins. i was at the 49ers game when lavar was finally put in to play, the crowed stood and cheered as loud as i've ever heard. the front office would piss off alot of skins fans, including myself, if they traded lavar. plus lavar is the best linebacker on the skins, marcus being a close 2nd, it would hurt the defense to trade him. the skins defense needs some defensive ends, free agency and the draft will be crucial this off season.
Ive got to disagree with you on one point here, LaVar is NOT our best linebacker. Our best linebacker, by far, is Marcus Washington. He has been our best LB for 2 years now. LaVar has never been the same since his knee injury, and I don't think we will ever see the explosiveness he once showed us.
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:04 AM   #40
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Re: Just a thought, but....do we consider trading LaVar?

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Ive got to disagree with you on one point here, LaVar is NOT our best linebacker. Our best linebacker, by far, is Marcus Washington. He has been our best LB for 2 years now. LaVar has never been the same since his knee injury, and I don't think we will ever see the explosiveness he once showed us.
You're probably right - the announcers in yesterday's game (who were otherwise mostly awful) picked up on this, noting that he seemed to be favoring his rebuilt knee.

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Old 12-05-2005, 11:14 AM   #41
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Re: Just a thought, but....do we consider trading LaVar?

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Let's see. The Vikings traded Randy Moss for a player no one remembers and draft picks that may or may not pan out. How did that work out? Madden called it "addition by subtraction."

A better idea is to keep your stars, build the talent base and find role players to fill your holes. It takes 2 to 4 seasons for this to pan out, but you keep your core group together longer and get further ahead. The team should have put more effort in keeping Antonio Pierce to complement Lavar.

On the other hand, I lived in Minnesota in '89 when the Vikings dropped their drawers (7 draft picks and three players) to get Herschel Walker from the Cowboys. The Boys parlayed the draft picks with other teams to get Emmit Smith, Russell Maryland, Darren Woodson, Clayton Holmes and Kevin Smith -- and of course three Super Bowl rings. The Vikings were a finesse team that never made proper use of Walker. The Cowboys replaced Walker with a Hall of Famer to-be. Any player is expendable for a ridiculous offer.

The Moral?
  1. This trade only works if the team gets a LB talent equal to Arrington. Building the line at the expense of linebacker is not an improvement.
  2. Fantasy football trades are not how to build up a franchise.
Thats what I keep saying, this team will never develop a depth of talent or a solid foundation for the future when they give away draft picks like Xmas gifts. If the skins could trade LA for a bunch of draft picks (like Dallas did with HW) they should do that deal in a NY minute. LA may be a popular player but a 4th Lombardi trophy would be even more popular.
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Old 12-05-2005, 11:18 AM   #42
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Re: Just a thought, but....do we consider trading LaVar?

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Let's see. The Vikings traded Randy Moss for a player no one remembers and draft picks that may or may not pan out. How did that work out? Madden called it "addition by subtraction."

A better idea is to keep your stars, build the talent base and find role players to fill your holes. It takes 2 to 4 seasons for this to pan out, but you keep your core group together longer and get further ahead. The team should have put more effort in keeping Antonio Pierce to complement Lavar.

On the other hand, I lived in Minnesota in '89 when the Vikings dropped their drawers (7 draft picks and three players) to get Herschel Walker from the Cowboys. The Boys parlayed the draft picks with other teams to get Emmit Smith, Russell Maryland, Darren Woodson, Clayton Holmes and Kevin Smith -- and of course three Super Bowl rings. The Vikings were a finesse team that never made proper use of Walker. The Cowboys replaced Walker with a Hall of Famer to-be. Any player is expendable for a ridiculous offer.

The Moral?
  1. This trade only works if the team gets a LB talent equal to Arrington. Building the line at the expense of linebacker is not an improvement.
  2. Fantasy football trades are not how to build up a franchise.

Well said! I'd be sorry to see Lavar go (DISCLOSURE: I have his jersey), but I'd rather see another SB victory under Gibbs!!!
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