Chaos at the Capitol: New thread edition

[CRedskinsRule]

I wonder if this tension between liberal nanny state and laissez faire capitalism is how the country felt leading up to the civil war. The level of difference between the two sides now, and the growing width of the violent fringe on both sides of our society seem destined to implode. Ironically the two sides are amazingly similar to the 1860s. Not specifically speaking about racism, but the rural or land owning class versus the industrial/urban class.

Not shockingly I think opposite of G1 in that I believe a mixed congress with biden as president could have done so much good toward bridging the divide, but a stacked liberal federal government will exacerbate the differences as the extreme left push an out of balance agenda through.

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[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I wonder if this tension between liberal nanny state and laissez faire capitalism is how the country felt leading up to the civil war. The level of difference between the two sides now, and the growing width of the violent fringe on both sides of our society seem destined to implode. Ironically the two sides are amazingly similar to the 1860s. Not specifically speaking about racism, but the rural or land owning class versus the industrial/urban class.

Not shockingly I think opposite of G1 in that I believe a mixed congress with biden as president could have done so much good toward bridging the divide, but a stacked liberal federal government will exacerbate the differences as the extreme left push an out of balance agenda through.

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Funny you didn't feel that way with republicans in charge?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Funny you didn't feel that way with republicans in charge?

Yes i did. My best government is split house and senate with a republican president

I can actually rank all of them because of the different powers each house has

Pres rep sen rep. house dem is my favorite and if the house had focused on passing legislation not blocking DT so many good bills could have passed

Next is pres rep house rep sen dem. This is a very good setup for fiscal issues not as good for social liberty

Next is pres dem house rep senate dem

Then pres dem house dem senate rep

Next is any combination where president is one party and house/senate are the other party

Finally the worst combination is when one party controls all 3 sections because you disenfranchise half the population and it skews the policies too far one way.

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[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Pres rep sen rep. house dem is my favorite and if the house had focused on passing legislation not blocking DT so many good bills could have passed

Next is pres rep house rep sen dem. This is a very good setup for fiscal issues not as good for social liberty


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Not for me. Thats what we had the past 4 years and McConnell and republicans abused it by adopting the "because we can" approach. Republicans rammed their agenda through congress and didnt compromise or slow down.

If only McConnell had allowed the vetting of Garland to proceed OR not ram barrett through last minute. His hypocrisy and seated republicans cheering it on really pissed me off.

But he did both. he also changed the rules so judicial appointments take 2 hours now.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Not for me. Thats what we had the past 4 years and McConnell and republicans abused it by adopting the "because we can" approach. Republicans rammed their agenda through congress and didnt compromise or slow down.



If only McConnell had allowed the vetting of Garland to proceed OR not ram barrett through last minute. His hypocrisy and seated republicans cheering it on really pissed me off.



But he did both. he also changed the rules so judicial appointments take 2 hours now.

Neither side compromised. Obviously in any of those options the underlying requirement is that the idiots cooperate with the other idiots

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Not for me. Thats what we had the past 4 years and McConnell and republicans abused it by adopting the "because we can" approach. Republicans rammed their agenda through congress and didnt compromise or slow down.



If only McConnell had allowed the vetting of Garland to proceed OR not ram barrett through last minute. His hypocrisy and seated republicans cheering it on really pissed me off.



But he did both. he also changed the rules so judicial appointments take 2 hours now.

McConnell and Schumer seem to have a blood feud between them. Which brings us back to term limits...

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