WFT's Off-Season Thread

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I didn't realize there were so many doctors and scientists on this forum.

This is practically a medical message board

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I didn't realize there were so many doctors and scientists on this forum.

Dont have to be a doctor or a scientist to relay the data that they present to us…..

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I didn't realize there were so many doctors and scientists on this forum.

Oh I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. And with my access to Youtube and Google I think that qualifies me as much as any real doctor out there.

[SunnySide]

TAMPA, Fla. -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians hasn't felt the need to bring in a specialist to talk to his players about the COVID-19 vaccine, which some players leaguewide have expressed skepticism about in recent days.

While Washington Football Team coach Ron Rivera brought Harvard immunologist Kizzmekia S. Corbett in to speak to his players Tuesday night, Arians said Thursday, "I'm the specialist."

He told players, "If you want to go back to normal, get vaccinated."

Arians said the Bucs are holding a vaccine drive for players and their families at the facility.

"There's going to be a long line over there right now," Arians said. "We were pretty short up until now. Hopefully we have a pretty good line."

Previous vaccine drives have also taken place at the facility for coaches and support staff members. The goal is to have 85% of the team vaccinated, which Arians feels they'll be much closer to after the drive.

"Everybody's tired of meeting out here and eating outside, and doing all those things we had to do last year," Arians said. "It's still a personal choice, but I don't see a reason not to be vaccinated."

When asked if any players expressed concern or skepticism, as Washington's Montez Sweat did Wednesday, Arians said, "I haven't spoken to anybody that's resisted it. They're just too lazy to get one."

Outside linebacker Shaq Barrett said he and his wife, Jordanna, both received the vaccine. Their four children aren't old enough to qualify for the vaccine at this time, as the CDC currently recommends children ages 12 and older receive vaccines.

Barrett missed the season finale against the Atlanta Falcons because he was a close contact of a teammate who tested positive, despite never testing positive himself. Still, he was forced to quarantine for five days. His children were home-schooled in 2020 and did not have play dates with other children because of concerns about the virus.

"It's 'to each their own.' I recommend it," Barrett said Thursday. "I don't know why people wouldn't get it. But whatever makes you comfortable, whatever helps you sleep at night, you do that. But I would like for 85% of the team to be vaccinated."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...get-vaccinated


so do we need to get 85% vax now or 70% ...

either way, if we are limited in meetings and on field and other teams arent, thats no good.

If players start to get fined bc they are eating together or hanging in hotel rooms on away games .. thats not good.

still plenty of time .. really hoping we meet what ever the percentage is.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any mandated percentage that each team must achieve with regard to vaccinations. I think Arians is speaking of the Bucs organizational goal (hope).

[punch it in]

I know Sunnyside mentioned a 70 percent threshold for a team to gain those extra benefits. This article mentions an 85 percent threshold.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...rs-vaccinated/

[Chief X_Phackter]

HA! I like Holiday Inn...Marriott's are better though; and I don't watch Youtube and Google and think I'm as qualified as any doctor who studied for 10-15 years.

Honestly, I like the back and forth. I'm grateful that there are a lot of opinions out there, and people are willing and able to present them. I respect all of them. Just as I respect the decision to get the vaccine, and the decision to not get the vaccine.

You're always going to have your anti-vaxers. They likely won't budge, and that's their prerogative.

But if you are low risk for COVID complications should you contract it, and you aren't comfortable with the unknowns of the vaccine (or the knowns), I think it is perfectly reasonable to be hesitant. I do think most people in that category will eventually get it, as I did.

I just wish the first reaction wasn't to shun or "cancel" those people - as I have personally witnessed.

In my opinion, I think it's better to let people live their own lives, and make decisions for themselves and their families, without giving them grief.

You do you.

[CRedskinsRule]

so back to Montez Sweat - the CDC is having an emergency meeting about the rise in cases, however slight, in heart reactions to the vaccine in young adults. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...-says-n1270339

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

so back to Montez Sweat - the CDC is having an emergency meeting about the rise in cases, however slight, in heart reactions to the vaccine in young adults. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...-says-n1270339

It’s a legit concern..I think Israel has good data on this. Appears to be much worse than the whole J&J deal

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

so back to Montez Sweat - the CDC is having an emergency meeting about the rise in cases, however slight, in heart reactions to the vaccine in young adults. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...-says-n1270339

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/u...-emergent.html

What could he possibly want more facts about?

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by DYoungJelly

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/u...-emergent.html

What could he possibly want more facts about?

Did you actually read what was shared?

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

Did you actually read what was shared?

Yes.

[Chief X_Phackter]

One more reason for people to be hesitant.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Ron Rivera says Washington Football Team will have open competition for starting QB job.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...arting-qb-job/

[SunnySide]

Chris Paul of the Phoenix Suns has entered into the NBA's COVID-19 health and safety protocols, according to The Athletic's Shams Charania. He will be out of action for an unknown period of time.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba-suns-ch...124740305.html

in addition to having to be under tight 2020 covid restrictions for the entire team ... non vacinnated players will be tested everyday and could miss a few weeks of games if they test positive. hopefully with most others around vaxxed the chances are much smaller than last year .. but Paul just got pulled out of the playoffs.