Taylor Effing Heinicke

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

"I wouldn't even be mildly surprised if Mitch [Trubisky]... is part of the plans for next year"
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Seems like interest in Trubisky is legit; Washington just didn't pull the trigger this year before the deadline

Ugh…

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Seems like interest in Trubisky is legit; Washington just didn't pull the trigger this year before the deadline

Why would they? MT isn't going to turn things around any more than TH can this year, and losing a pick to bring him in when we're already 2-5 makes no sense. As an FA and assuming we'd get rid of Allen, TH or both into the bargain (and also assuming Fitz is gone/retired), it makes sense because you'll need at least one vet to support any rookie we go after.

[MTK]

Trubisky is trash. If he's the week 1 starter next year I'm out.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by MTK

Trubisky is trash. If he's the week 1 starter next year I'm out.

What if he's week 1 starter but a Rookie right behind him? Also lets understand that Ryan Tannehill was deemed to be a bum too until he left Miami.. Maybe mitch isn't as bad as Matt Nagy is. He's gotta be better than TH

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

What if he's week 1 starter but a Rookie right behind him? Also lets understand that Ryan Tannehill was deemed to be a bum too until he left Miami.. Maybe mitch isn't as bad as Matt Nagy is. He's gotta be better than TH

He's hot trash. Don't want him under any circumstances.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MTK

He's hot trash. Don't want him under any circumstances.

This.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

What if he's week 1 starter but a Rookie right behind him? Also lets understand that Ryan Tannehill was deemed to be a bum too until he left Miami.. Maybe mitch isn't as bad as Matt Nagy is. He's gotta be better than TH

I would be fine with this approach. However, if Trubisky is the starter and Heinicke or Allen is the backup then I would be disappointed.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I actually like Trubisky. He's far from the trash we have right now...

I think Chicago gave up on him too early. There's a reason he was considered a favorite, and one of the safest QB picks coming out of college. The knock on him was always inexperience, and then the fact that he wasn't Deshaun Watson or Patrick Mahomes coming out of the gate. I wouldn't mind at all if they brought him in, and also looked to the draft for a QB.

Fact is, neither Wilson, Watson, Ryan, or Rodgers are coming here. Trubisky will be at the top of the free agent QB class.

[MTK]

If we think TH has accuracy issues, just wait for Mitch. Oy.

QB Accuracy Chart Reveals How Brutal Mitch Trubisky Was In 2020

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

If we think TH has accuracy issues, just wait for Mitch. Oy.

QB Accuracy Chart Reveals How Brutal Mitch Trubisky Was In 2020

Taylor Heinicke is no Mitchell Trubisky (and vice versa)

Accuracy was one of MT's strengths coming out of college.

That chart covers nine total starts. I definitely wouldn't base my overall evaluation of him on a chart some dude put together that spans nine starts.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Taylor Heinicke is no Mitchell Trubisky (and vice versa)

Accuracy was one of MT's strengths coming out of college.

That chart covers nine total starts. I definitely wouldn't base my overall evaluation of him on a chart some dude put together that spans nine starts.

His accuracy issues obviously go beyond just 9 starts in 2020. He didn't just develop those issues in that one season. I'm also going off what I've seen. He can be wildly inaccurate at times and he struggles with ball placement. I think his mechanics break down too easily and that leads to accuracy problems. He also hasn't handled pressure very well.

He's young, could he clean up his game with good coaching? Sure, but I'm just not a fan or a believer.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MTK

His accuracy issues obviously go beyond just 9 starts in 2020. He didn't just develop those issues in that one season. I'm also going off what I've seen. He can be wildly inaccurate at times and he struggles with ball placement. I think his mechanics break down too easily and that leads to accuracy problems. He also hasn't handled pressure very well.

He's young, could he clean up his game with good coaching? Sure, but I'm just not a fan or a believer.

I just find it hard to believe that his main strength coming out of college all of a sudden became a glaring weakness, and besides that 9-game chart, I have no reason to believe it has. I haven't watched him play much, but his team went to the playoffs - twice. More than you can say about any one QB from this team since Mark Rypien.

For me it boils down to - I'm not a believer in anything on this current roster, and I'm not a believer that for some reason one of the top QBs like Watson, Wilson, etc. is going to want to come to this shit show... So targeting a Veteran upgrade who was highly touted coming out of college just four years ago, someone with something to prove, with a clean slate, and potentially more weapons than he has previously had, is ok with me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I just find it hard to believe that his main strength coming out of college all of a sudden became a glaring weakness, and besides that 9-game chart, I have no reason to believe it has. I haven't watched him play much, but his team went to the playoffs - twice. More than you can say about any one QB from this team since Mark Rypien.

For me it boils down to - I'm not a believer in anything on this current roster, and I'm not a believer that for some reason one of the top QBs like Watson, Wilson, etc. is going to want to come to this shit show... So targeting a Veteran upgrade who was highly touted coming out of college just four years ago, someone with something to prove, with a clean slate, and potentially more weapons than he has previously had, is ok with me.

Being accurate in college vs the pros are two completely different things. He's also been a horrible deep ball thrower, and also god awful in the redzone.

According to Pro Football Focus, Trubisky ranked among the worst quarterbacks in the NFL in deep passing in 2019, where he clocked in at No. 27.

The best thing that can be said about Mitchell Trubisky’s deep passing is that it’s no worse than his regular passing, and his PFF grade ranks around the same place in either scenario. Trubisky completed just 34.4% of his deep shots for only 10.4 yards per attempt, and that’s with Allen Robinson II winning jump balls at a high rate. Ultimately it’s just another part of Trubisky’s game that has likely cost him the starting job in favor of Nick Foles, whose numbers last season may have been even worse than Trubisky’s.

In 2019, Trubisky threw five interceptions (four inside the 20, one inside the 10) in the red zone in 15 starts. Gardner Minshew, Jimmy Garoppolo, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Kirk Cousins all performed far better in the red zone last year. He was also bad accuracy-wise in 2019, completing 50.8 percent of his passes from inside the 20-yard line and an ugly 43.8 percent of his throws from 10 yards out. Only Baker Mayfield, Andy Dalton, Case Keenum and Tom Brady were worse from 10 yards out last year.

[skinsfan69]

I bet if MT got to play in Buffalo he'd do better than he did in Chicago. Not sure any QB would do well in Chicago. Fields won't be successful there.

Sometimes QB's need more time than others. But not sure I would bring him in here cause he probably isn't any better than what we have.

[Meks]

Tampa us where this legend started... it may very well be where it ends as well