Taylor Effing Heinicke

[punch it in]

If Smith or Allen is on this team next year along with Heineken and Heineken earns the starting job then he plays until he gets injured. If he gets injured. Im just going to say that injuries are probably a little easier to come by when you are getting a start once every one to two years. Trying to do too much, always giving it 110 percent because you know you constantly have to prove yourself. Look how this latest injury occurred. A dive from the four yard line. That is a guy trying to prove himself.
If the bring in a Stafford than that changes everything. You certainly keep the man as a backup either way.
And Colt McCoy 2.0 he is not. Colt gets to stick around with his less than mediocre play because he went to Texas. Heineken played better in five quarters than McCoy has played in five years.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

If Smith or Allen is on this team next year along with Heineken and Heineken earns the starting job then he plays until he gets injured. If he gets injured. Im just going to say that injuries are probably a little easier to come by when you are getting a start once every one to two years. Trying to do too much, always giving it 110 percent because you know you constantly have to prove yourself. Look how this latest injury occurred. A dive from the four yard line. That is a guy trying to prove himself.
If the bring in a Stafford than that changes everything. You certainly keep the man as a backup either way.

I'd say Smith is out. I doubt they bring him back and he probably will retire anyway.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by punch it in

If Smith or Allen is on this team next year along with Heineken and Heineken earns the starting job then he plays until he gets injured. If he gets injured. Im just going to say that injuries are probably a little easier to come by when you are getting a start once every one to two years. Trying to do too much, always giving it 110 percent because you know you constantly have to prove yourself. Look how this latest injury occurred. A dive from the four yard line. That is a guy trying to prove himself.
If the bring in a Stafford than that changes everything. You certainly keep the man as a backup either way.
And Colt McCoy 2.0 he is not. Colt gets to stick around with his less than mediocre play because he went to Texas. Heineken played better in five quarters than McCoy has played in five years.

It wasn't the EZ dive he hurt it, it was on a subsequent sack. Landed on his left shoulder. Not down to his trying too hard, down to coming down a DL on top of him. That is going to happen quite frequently in the NFL, and does call into question his durability.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

It wasn't the EZ dive he hurt it, it was on a subsequent sack. Landed on his left shoulder. Not down to his trying too hard, down to coming down a DL on top of him. That is going to happen quite frequently in the NFL, and does call into question his durability.

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...e-vs-tampa-bay
He popped his AC joint out on the dive. The not so EZ dive lol.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by punch it in

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...e-vs-tampa-bay
He popped his AC joint out on the dive. The not so EZ dive lol.

Didn't hear them say anything at that point or see him struggling on the sideline. He only came out on the subsequent 3rd down sack and hadn't looked hurt to that point. Must have been toughing it out in between!

I really like him and want to see him back at least as #2, but his injury history is a worry, and popping your shoulder on an almost unopposed dive only reinforces that.

[Number44]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Didn't hear them say anything at that point or see him struggling on the sideline. He only came out on the subsequent 3rd down sack and hadn't looked hurt to that point. Must have been toughing it out in between!

I really like him and want to see him back at least as #2, but his injury history is a worry, and popping your shoulder on an almost unopposed dive only reinforces that.

This is just plain wrong. When you play a sport that involves contact with other players and with the ground, there are times when a slight nudge can cause you to hit the ground differently than your body is naturally setting itself for. In basketball, I was forever turning my ankle either being bumped on the way down from a rebound, or my foot landing unexpectedly on someone's foot. In football, on a play like this, he is diving forward and his body is bracing for the landing. As he is bumped by the defenders, his body rotates slightly and he lands on his shoulder. This is how guys get hurt, and to pretend that it is somehow because his body is weak or soft is just wrong.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Number44

This is just plain wrong. When you play a sport that involves contact with other players and with the ground, there are times when a slight nudge can cause you to hit the ground differently than your body is naturally setting itself for. In basketball, I was forever turning my ankle either being bumped on the way down from a rebound, or my foot landing unexpectedly on someone's foot. In football, on a play like this, he is diving forward and his body is bracing for the landing. As he is bumped by the defenders, his body rotates slightly and he lands on his shoulder. This is how guys get hurt, and to pretend that it is somehow because his body is weak or soft is just wrong.

Maybe, but fact is he's played in what - three NFL games. Didn't finish the first two, and separated his shoulder in the third. Durability is a valid concern.

[skinsfan69]

I'm not buying Watson will be available.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not buying Watson will be available.

We don't have the capital for Watson but I'd be all in on that.. He also wants to go to Miami per reports.

My guy is Stafford, I'd offer our 2nd round pick for him as well.

https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/pl...hew-stafford/2

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

We don't have the capital for Watson but I'd be all in on that.. He also wants to go to Miami per reports.

My guy is Stafford, I'd offer our 2nd round pick for him as well.

https://sportsinjurypredictor.com/pl...hew-stafford/2

i don't think Miami would be interested.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I really like TH. At the very least he has earned an offer to come back and compete next year. I'm not going to say that he isn't built to withstand the rigors of an NFL season, especially if he has an offseason with the team / trainers, but I am a little concerned about his durability given his style of play. Anyway, he definitely has to be considered. Coming off the street, he looked better than all three of the other QBs that started a game this year.

I'm not opposed to see if Kyle Allen wants to come back and compete, but personally I wouldn't bring him back. That was a pretty good injury he suffered, and it appears that TH is better; and I don't see either of them being the long term starter. I say wash your hands of Kyle Allen, bring back TH, sign a Veteran QB, draft a QB, and have a fierce competition for QB1, QB2, and QB3.