Marty Hurney Thread

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So my read is:

Kyle Smith, VP of Player Personnel
Reports to: Martin Mayhew, SVP and General Manager
Reports to: Marty Hurney, EVP Football / Personnel
Reports to: Ron Rivera, Head Coach and The Dude

We've had press releases come out already. Both Mayhew and Hurney report directly to Ron.

JP Finley reported that Mayhew is in charge of player personnel stuff and Hurney will help out with administrative stuff. It appears the structure is exactly what you criticized Chief X for proposing a few posts ago.

I agree with you that it seems a bit backward on paper, but this has been a coach-centric approach from the beginning. Everything Ron's done so far has worked out better than I've expected, so I am cautiously optomistic.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

We've had press releases come out already. Both Mayhew and Hurney report directly to Ron.

JP Finley reported that Mayhew is in charge of player personnel stuff and Hurney will help out with administrative stuff. It appears the structure is exactly what you criticized Chief X for proposing a few posts ago.

I agree with you that it seems a bit backward on paper, but this has been a coach-centric approach from the beginning. Everything Ron's done so far has worked out better than I've expected, so I am cautiously optomistic.

Just saw it and you're right. Chief I owe you an apology, WFT really is dumb enough to structure it this way.

It's a bad idea, I think Ron's inviting trouble. Mayhew and Hurney need to be adults who don't stab each other in the back or Ron won't be well supported. Maybe they are, but a better structure would mitigate it.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Just saw it and you're right. Chief I owe you an apology, WFT really is dumb enough to structure it this way.

It's a bad idea, I think Ron's inviting trouble. Mayhew and Hurney need to be adults who don't stab each other in the back or Ron won't be well supported. Maybe they are, but a better structure would mitigate it.

Given that they were both hired at the same time and both report to Ron, I think they all know going into this exactly who is responsible for doing what. Hurney is 65 years old and likely wants to "stay in the game" without necessarily having a 60-80hr/week job that dominates his life.

As awkward as the arrangement seems, I think it can work fine as long as Hurney "stays in his lane" (whatever that lane is).

Some have said this is too many cooks in the kitchen, but given that Kyle Smith is reportedly not part of the go-forward plan, this is really just a net addition of one person. And given Ron was stretched very thin last year, we definitely needed to add atleast one person.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Given that they were both hired at the same time and both report to Ron, I think they all know going into this exactly who is responsible for doing what. Hurney is 65 years old and likely wants to "stay in the game" without necessarily having a 60-80hr/week job that dominates his life.

As awkward as the arrangement seems, I think it can work fine as long as Hurney "stays in his lane" (whatever that lane is).

Some have said this is too many cooks in the kitchen, but given that Kyle Smith is reportedly not part of the go-forward plan, this is really just a net addition of one person. And given Ron was stretched very thin last year, we definitely needed to add atleast one person.

Agree on the number of hands. But the rationalization over the structure seems like... well, rationalization.

It's not a smart organizational structure. Organizational structure exists because human nature is what it is. Mayhew and Hurney will no doubt start out with the best of intentions but if they begin to disagree, or the stress begins to accumulate, I don't like the setup.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Agree on the number of hands. But the rationalization over the structure seems like... well, rationalization.

It's not a smart organizational structure. Organizational structure exists because human nature is what it is. Mayhew and Hurney will no doubt start out with the best of intentions but if they begin to disagree, or the stress begins to accumulate, I don't like the setup.

Fucking stupid to let your best talent evaluator be replaced for mediocre ones. All Ron had to is bring in either Hurney or Mayhew and teach Smith, but no, instead we let talent walk out the door.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Given that they were both hired at the same time and both report to Ron, I think they all know going into this exactly who is responsible for doing what. Hurney is 65 years old and likely wants to "stay in the game" without necessarily having a 60-80hr/week job that dominates his life.

As awkward as the arrangement seems, I think it can work fine as long as Hurney "stays in his lane" (whatever that lane is).

Some have said this is too many cooks in the kitchen, but given that Kyle Smith is reportedly not part of the go-forward plan, this is really just a net addition of one person. And given Ron was stretched very thin last year, we definitely needed to add atleast one person.

Looks like there may be one less cook in the kitchen soon. Kyle isn’t long for the WFT.

“Update from @Russellmania621: #Rams, #49ers, #Packers, #Raiders have all shown interest in Kyle Smith.

Regarding San Francisco (which would be a lateral move): "I've heard Washington would not stand in their way."

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Just saw it and you're right. Chief I owe you an apology, WFT really is dumb enough to structure it this way.

It's a bad idea, I think Ron's inviting trouble. Mayhew and Hurney need to be adults who don't stab each other in the back or Ron won't be well supported. Maybe they are, but a better structure would mitigate it.

It's all good man. It's all a bit unconventional I suppose, but I think the most important takeaway here is there are three very competent football minds, who are all on the same page, with the same vision for the future of the team, with one goal in mind, and one man in charge - RR.

Five years from now we can all judge how great or stupid these decisions were, but not today.