WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Scalper

You don't know that. He's played through brutal injuries for years. And at 38 every QB is less effective than in their prime. Even if he lasts that long, I'd rather have a young QB who is 26 or 27 at that time. He has four kids. Maybe he gets his knee blown out on a blown protection because we don't have that LT we could have drafted with the picks we spent on him, and starts thinking about long term health. Anything can happen in NFL. The fact that a few QBs playing into 40s doesn't mean most are. We get 3 more years out of him, still at a high level, we did well. And that isn't worth a 1st round plus more.

We haven't had a true pro scout pick a QB in over a decade. THE DAN dictated McNabb, RGIII, Haskins. Imagine if all those picks had been used on players that produced. You don't have to trade up to 8. Why is everyone a bunch of pussies about drafting a QB? When you don't trade 5 picks for a trade-up for a QB, all your eggs aren't in one basket. I guarantee you Smith has one QB not in top-4 in this draft that he thinks could be a franchise QB that would probably be available at #19, and probably in 2nd round. Draft a franchise LT first round, a QB 2nd round, a CB and WR 3rd round. Then another QB you like 4th or 5th round. Bring them in, let them compete. A good GM CAN find a franchise QB outside the top 15.

I'm not opposed to proven vet, but NOT by trading away the future. What is truly obstinate is the insistence we mortgage our future for retreads.

Tua and Watson: dream on. Miami isn't giving up on him year 2. Houston isn't trading Watson for anything less than 2 1sts plus more, he isn't worth that, and the owner is probably going to dig in and say, screw having a guy I just paid $27M and agreed to pay $156M over 4 years, $39M a year, with $80M guaranteed at signing, telling me what to do. The dead cap hit is $50M to $60M if you cut him, and still a ton if you trade him. Billionaires aren't fans. Watson is trying to screw Houston BIG TIME, and even a billionaire isn't going to just shrug off a boning that huge. The GM is doing the smart thing, keeping quiet, letting the media and homers do what they do, and then see if some team will give up an absurd ransom. If not, Watson gets told to show up or get sued.

Can I offer friendly advice? (i will anyways)

You don't need to write books or essays for every response (may be a bit hypocritical coming from me)
Capitalizing the DAN isn't really necessary, we all know who DS is. And it makes your posts seem a bit stalker crazy.

On the football side, whoever we bring in at QB has risks of injury. Bringing in a draft pick QB, regardless of scouting staff, is always hit or miss. Look at the teams this year alone that are QB needy. If we have the opportunity to spend 1 first, and get a high probability of offensive success for several years, than we should do that. Then bring in mid round pick qbs every other year looking for the shining star.

This is a QB driven league. the second factor is defense. If you have those two in top bracket category, you will be a continual presence in the playoffs.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Can I offer friendly advice? (i will anyways)

You don't need to write books or essays for every response (may be a bit hypocritical coming from me)
Capitalizing the DAN isn't really necessary, we all know who DS is. And it makes your posts seem a bit stalker crazy.

On the football side, whoever we bring in at QB has risks of injury. Bringing in a draft pick QB, regardless of scouting staff, is always hit or miss. Look at the teams this year alone that are QB needy. If we have the opportunity to spend 1 first, and get a high probability of offensive success for several years, than we should do that. Then bring in mid round pick qbs every other year looking for the shining star.

This is a QB driven league. the second factor is defense. If you have those two in top bracket category, you will be a continual presence in the playoffs.

This is a QB driven league. Virtually every team that has won more than one SB in salary cap era had a young QB they drafted and developed. Big difference between getting to playoffs and winning SB. We should be looking for a long-term answer, not a stopgap, and using our 1st round picks to acquire long-term resources. Finding a QB is hard but good GMs do so, everyone acts like drafting a franchise QB is as impossible as levitating, it isn't. Wasting 1st round picks on stopgaps is fool's gold and won't lead to SB or even long term success. Injuries can happen to anyone, but older guys more injury prone and more apt to retire from them, which was my point. Stafford could play out the 2 years on his contract and retire, no one knows. We should commit to finding a long-term QB in the draft. Period. Or a young FA which requires no draft picks. Trading picks for retreads is moronic, and typifies the short-term thinking that has made us suck forever.

Also keep in mind the best teams get 3-4 extra draft picks each year because they work the comp pick system. They draft tons of players continually, sign FAs judiciously because they don't even have money to lock up their own homegrown talent, and the machine just grinds on with 10 or 11 picks per year instead of 7. HUGE difference. You never get to that point if you don't commit to building primarily through the draft. If this team could ever go five years without some num-nutted trade based on the delusion that we are close to being a contender, it might attain real long-term success. But it just can't ever resist the temptation and commit to building the right way for more than 2 years at a time. The only people that last long-term here are those that kiss THE DAN'S ass, period, and such individuals are never good football people. We finally have momentum, and could keep crushing it with more young talent added, instead everyone wants to mortgage the future yet again. How many times do we have to see this approach fail to learn from it?

I will always write it THE DAN to mock the way he makes people salute him and won't let them look him in the eyes, and I don't care how it sounds. I use voice recognition, length is what it is.