WFT Quarterback Thread - Post SEASON 2021

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by mcludka

Thoughts on Mariota?

I’ve dogged him on these boards previously, but after a deeper dive, not terrible career stats:
77 TDs (Alex Smith 199)
45 INTs (Alex Smith 109)
2.5 INT % (Alex Smith 2.1)
62.9 Completion % (Alex Smith 62.6)
89.5 QB Rating (Alex Smith 86.9)
209.9 Yards Per Game (Alex Smith 204.9)

He’s basically a younger Alex Smith in the role of Game Manager. He’s also never started a full season, never playing more than 15 games in a season (2016 and 2017) so durability is an issue. I wouldn’t give more than a 5th round pick. Mobility only gets you so far.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

I’ve dogged him on these boards previously, but after a deeper dive, not terrible career stats:
77 TDs (Alex Smith 199)
45 INTs (Alex Smith 109)
2.5 INT % (Alex Smith 2.1)
62.9 Completion % (Alex Smith 62.6)
89.5 QB Rating (Alex Smith 86.9)
209.9 Yards Per Game (Alex Smith 204.9)

He’s basically a younger Alex Smith in the role of Game Manager. He’s also never started a full season, never playing more than 15 games in a season (2016 and 2017) so durability is an issue. I wouldn’t give more than a 5th round pick. Mobility only gets you so far.

Why do that though when you can just get a game manager in free agency?

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Why do that though when you can just get a game manager in free agency?

Because Dak Prescott is the only current free agent available that I think is better than him right now. So that doesn’t say much for everyone other than Dak.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Because Dak Prescott is the only current free agent available that I think is better than him right now. So that doesn’t say much for everyone other than Dak.

Yep, if he can come back healthy and 100%, Dak is probably a couple tiers above all "available" free agent QBs.

Mariota is not markedly better, if he's at all better, than the likes of J Winston, A Dalton, T Taylor, or R Fitzpatrick...probably not even J Brissett or M Trubisky - all of whom you don't have to trade assets for.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Yep, if he can come back healthy and 100%, Dak is probably a couple tiers above all "available" free agent QBs.

Mariota is not markedly better, if he's at all better, than the likes of J Winston, A Dalton, T Taylor, or R Fitzpatrick...probably not even J Brissett or M Trubisky - all of whom you don't have to trade assets for.

Disagree. Need someone decently young and mobile. Everyone you mention is not worth signing IMO due to age, mobility issues, injury history, INT issues and/or not being able to read defenses well.

Winston - Eats interceptions
Dalton - Red rocket explosion
Taylor - Mr. Glass
Fitzmagic - Old man INT
Brisket - Charred (in the garbage)
Trubisky - Too risky

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Disagree. Need someone decently young and mobile. Everyone you mention is not worth signing IMO due to age, mobility issues, injury history, INT issues and/or not being able to read defenses well.

Winston - Eats interceptions
Dalton - Red rocket explosion
Taylor - Mr. Glass
Fitzmagic - Old man INT
Brisket - Charred (in the garbage)
Trubisky - Too risky

Haha. Yep, that's my point. They ALL have flaws. That's why they are ALL currently backups. Neither is a great deal better than the others.

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Haha. Yep, that's my point. They ALL have flaws. That's why they are ALL currently backups. Neither is a great deal better than the others.

I don’t see it that way.

Mariota - 27
Winston - 27
Dalton - 33
Taylor - 31
Fitzmagic - 38
Brisket - 27
Trubisky - 26

Out of these guys, those in their 30’s are washed up. Trubisky, Brisket and Winston have MAJOR flaws. I don’t see where Mariota has anything super glaring. Numbers are solid from a large enough sample size. I think he could be like Ryan Tannehill and be able to flourish in a system that’s a good fit for him. I think he could do well in WSH. I don’t think the others will do well anywhere.