WFT's Off-Season Thread

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I agree Scherff is crazy talented, and he should've been locked long term 2 years ago... but once that one was messed up by BA, then I would have accepted to let him walk, it's hard to find guys of Scherff's talent, but you can find plug and play decent guards, we've proven that several times in the past, most recent example being Schweitzer.

18M/y for an aging RG who missed 16 games in 3 seasons and is coming off one of his worst seasons just isn't the answer forme.

dude he was an all pro

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

dude he was an all pro

Watching games and tape did you feel like it was the year he deserved it ?
For me it was like Di Caprio finally getting an Oscar because he deserved it with previous movies, not necessarily with the one he was awarded it on.

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[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Watching games and tape did you feel like it was the year he deserved it ?
For me it was like Di Caprio finally getting an Oscar because he deserved it with previous movies, not necessarily with the one he was awarded it on.

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I feel the same way. When he was out 3 games this year, I didnt notice a drop in play or production. Hes played 13, 11 and 8 games past 3 years.

But very high PFF grade and named All Pro .. ill defer to them vs my eye ball test.

Id rather pay BS vs having a Shawn Lauvau situation though where you had an open freeway to the backfield. You couldnt run a playbook with Shawn in there.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Watching games and tape did you feel like it was the year he deserved it ?
For me it was like Di Caprio finally getting an Oscar because he deserved it with previous movies, not necessarily with the one he was awarded it on.

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PFF gave him his highest graded season, and it wasn't even close really

20 - 84.1
19 - 75.2
18 - 72.5
17 - 79.8
16 - 77.2
15 - 74.6

And generally speaking you just don't luck into an all pro selection or get it because the voters are feeling sentimental, eyes that know a lot more than us saw something pretty damn good from him to give him the all pro nod.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

PFF gave him his highest graded season, and it wasn't even close really



20 - 84.1

19 - 75.2

18 - 72.5

17 - 79.8

16 - 77.2

15 - 74.6



And generally speaking you just don't luck into an all pro selection or get it because the voters are feeling sentimental, eyes that know a lot more than us saw something pretty damn good from him to give him the all pro nod.

I'm not gonna argue that he's very talented, and I'm not saying he was bad this season, but I'd be curious to find Cooley grades cuz IRRC he wasn't praising him as highly as he had before.

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[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I'm not gonna argue that he's very talented, and I'm not saying he was bad this season, but I'd be curious to find Cooley grades cuz IRRC he wasn't praising him as highly as he had before.

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No disrespect to Cooley but he is also a negative nancy.. It seems like most of the time he has a beef with the skins players and it's odd

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

No disrespect to Cooley but he is also a negative nancy.. It seems like most of the time he has a beef with the skins players and it's odd

I could hear he's been unfairly harsh towards Kerrigan, but he absolutely LOVES Scherff !

1nyway, no one's arguing he wasn't our best lineman last season. He was. I just think it wasn't his best season is all am saying.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

I'm not gonna argue that he's very talented, and I'm not saying he was bad this season, but I'd be curious to find Cooley grades cuz IRRC he wasn't praising him as highly as he had before.

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I say this with all respect and affection: Knock off your b.s. about my main man BS before you lose your ambassador post! Can't we have an All-Pro too, like all the other teams' fans, without bitching about how much they cost? Hell, we're about to spend more on Free Agents who haven't done a thing for us yet then we spent on BS.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I say this with all respect and affection: Knock off your b.s. about my main man BS before you lose your ambassador post! Can't we have an All-Pro too, like all the other teams' fans, without bitching about how much they cost? Hell, we're about to spend more on Free Agents who haven't done a thing for us yet then we spent on BS.

Don't read me wrong. I love Scherff. I think he's a tremendously talented player, and I think his attitude is what we need for Ron's culture change to become a reality.

All I've been saying is:

-He should've been signed to a LTD 2 seasons ago

-Not doing that put us in a situation to spend a lot of cap on one season and more likely than not end up losing him to FA next year

-Are we gonna be able to find answers at enough positions to contend to something meaningful ? If not, is this 18M 1yr rental really logical ?

-Last year wasn't his best season, partly because he played banged up

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Don't read me wrong. I love Scherff. I think he's a tremendously talented player, and I think his attitude is what we need for Ron's culture change to become a reality.

All I've been saying is:

-He should've been signed to a LTD 2 seasons ago

-Not doing that put us in a situation to spend a lot of cap on one season and more likely than not end up losing him to FA next year

-Are we gonna be able to find answers at enough positions to contend to something meaningful ? If not, is this 18M 1yr rental really logical ?

-Last year wasn't his best season, partly because he played banged up

You keep saying he didn't play great last year yet his PFF grade and an all pro designation beg to differ. I agree with everything else, we should have signed him to a new deal 2 years ago. It's always cheaper to sign a player today than down the road.