To 2021 and Beyond .... current politics

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Vermont had 1204 abortions in 2018. 20 were performed at 21 weeks or later.

I would assume that those 20 involved women who wanted to carry to birth but had to abort for medical reasons. But idk.

Abortions after 21 weeks or so is so small a percent, I dont think that abortion laws should be based on that 1% and ignoring the other 99%. .. unless you think all abortions should be illegal, then you tunnel vision on that 1% as guiding your argument

So what your are saying is that you think it should be legal to abort a healthy fetus up to the minute before it would be born? That is what it is legal to do in Vermont and some other states (note it is not legal in any European country). All 20 may have needed to get a late term abortion (Like you I don't know) I wouldn't want to stop that. I just want restrictions in place that would make it illegal to abort a late term healthy fetus that is no threat to the physical life of the mother. IMO, the argument that so few of those occur that it isn't important doesn't really hold water.

[SunnySide]

[QUOTE=nonniey;1278984I just want restrictions in place that would make it illegal to abort a late term healthy fetus that is no threat to the physical life of the mother. IMO, the argument that so few of those occur that it isn't important doesn't really hold water.[/QUOTE]

Yes, id want those same restrictions. After 22-24 weeks, it would need to be medically necessary.

1/3 of clinics cant do abortions after 20 weeks and only 16% clinics do abortions at 24 weeks.

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What I was saying is that the 1% of late term abortions, (seemingly done bc birth abnormalities) shouldnt drive the discussion that effects the other vast majority 99%.

edit - this is just my opinion, I do respect pro-lifers opinion and view point

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Yes, id want those same restrictions. After 22-24 weeks, it would need to be medically necessary.

1/3 of clinics cant do abortions after 20 weeks and only 16% clinics do abortions at 24 weeks.

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What I was saying is that the 1% of late term abortions, (seemingly done bc birth abnormalities) shouldnt drive the discussion that effects the other vast majority 99%.

edit - this is just my opinion, I do respect pro-lifers opinion and view point

Well that was the point of my original post that the extreme elements on both sides drive the argument. So the fight is always no restrictions at all versus total ban and the vast majority of most Americans are opposed to both those positions.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Well that was the point of my original post that the extreme elements on both sides drive the argument. So the fight is always no restrictions at all versus total ban and the vast majority of most Americans are opposed to both those positions.

Pro Choice does not want no restrictions free for all. Thats just not true.

Pro choice wants Roe v Wade to be followed. No restrictions on 1st T, State can put restrictions on 2nd T in name of womans health only, States can ban 3rd T abortions unless an abortion is only way to save woman from dying.

Thats why the vast majority of Americans are pro choice.

There are not 2 polar extremes here, only one.