Pre Draft Thread 2.0

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Yeah, maybe they do trade up, but I think it would be a mistake. There's too many holes to fill, and aging players in key positions - across the O-line.



That's why I'm more of a fan of trading back than trading up. There's like 12 tackles (15+ O-linemen) and 12 linebackers projected to be taken in the first two rounds, who all have the potential to be impact starters at the next level.



That being said, trading up wouldn't be a mistake if they were able to land a true franchise QB for years to come. It is such a gamble though... If they miss, the team is worse off than it was before - less picks, same holes...

The law of averages says eventually a first round quarterback will work out. Lol. For the love of God it has to if we trade up.

[punch it in]

Also a lot of talk about us having so many holes to fill. I think “so many” is too strong of language. Besides the quarterback in question (which is btw our biggest hole), T, LB, S, second TE. Other than that I see no glaring holes. I mean we could use some other pieces but no team is perfectly set at every position. Always going to be holes.

[Chief X_Phackter]

You're right, speaking in terms of just 2021, there's not necessarily glaring needs all over. Looking forward though, there is work to be done across the O-line in particular, and with the back seven of the defense.

[Chief X_Phackter]

List of players the WFT has either met, or is scheduled to meet with virtually:

Christian Darrisaw, OT

Tommy Tremble, TE
Brevin Jordan, TE

Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR
Rondale Moore, WR
Mike Strachan, WR
Kadarius Toney, WR
Dax Milne, WR

Asante Samuel Jr., CB
Trill Williams, CB
Greg Newsome, CB

Darius Stills, DT

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

List of players the WFT has either met, or is scheduled to meet with virtually:

Christian Darrisaw, OT

Tommy Tremble, TE
Brevin Jordan, TE

Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR
Rondale Moore, WR
Mike Strachan, WR
Kadarius Toney, WR
Dax Milne, WR

Asante Samuel Jr., CB
Trill Williams, CB
Greg Newsome, CB

Darius Stills, DT

Really like the TE selections...right in that 3rd round area. They aren’t done at WR this offseason.

Greg Newsome is an underrated prospect

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

List of players the WFT has either met, or is scheduled to meet with virtually:

Christian Darrisaw, OT

Tommy Tremble, TE
Brevin Jordan, TE

Ihmir Smith-Marsette, WR
Rondale Moore, WR
Mike Strachan, WR
Kadarius Toney, WR
Dax Milne, WR

Asante Samuel Jr., CB
Trill Williams, CB
Greg Newsome, CB

Darius Stills, DT

Very surprised no LB is on this list

[mooby]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Very surprised no LB is on this list

I'm not. Without taking a look at the numbers, I'm gonna guess out of every draft class we have every year only 1-2 of them actually interview with the team.

I think these are guys Ron is just doing DD on, guys he doesn't expect to be available, guys he expects to play in the NFL, and maybe a couple of them he thinks he might have a shot at drafting.

I'd still put money on us drafting at least one LB. Maybe Ron doesn't want to tip his hand on the one he likes though.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Yeah, my bet is they will still draft a couple LBs. The interviews don't tell the whole story, but I do think in some cases they would be more valuable this year with the limited contact they can have with prospects.

I'm quite sure they will draft players they don't interview though.

[EdmundDorf]

That is by far not an exhaustive list.... if that is how many guys they have actually talked to given how many opportunities the NFL give them then it would be a huge front office failure..... The sites who publish these lists don't hear about every contact, they generally note when players mention it, as the teams aren't routinely giving out that information other than to blow smoke

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

That is by far not an exhaustive list.... if that is how many guys they have actually talked to given how many opportunities the NFL give them then it would be a huge front office failure..... The sites who publish these lists don't hear about every contact, they generally note when players mention it, as the teams aren't routinely giving out that information other than to blow smoke

No, I'm sure it is not. It's just what has been reported, just like all the other news.

[GridIron26]

At this time close to the draft, we should take all types of reports with a grain of salt, there are way too many smokescreens and "could happen" turning into "will happen" reports to determine what the team's plans are.

[Pervis_Griffith]

I like this draft ...

https://riggosrag.com/2021/04/21/was...-round-trades/


1 - JOK, LB, Notre Dame
2 - Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC
3 - trade back .... move down, pick up 2 fourth round picks ..
- Andre Cisco, S, Syracuse
- Walker "Isn't" Little, LT, Stanford
4 - Hunter Long, TE, Boston College
- Dylan Moses, LB, Alabama
- Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma
5 - Sadarius Hutcherson, OG, South Carolina
6 - trade up ... both 7th rounders to get in 6th
- Justin Hilliard, LB, Ohio State


3 solid Linebackers
1 huge Tackle
1 very good WR
1 highly touted TE
1 safety with high ceiling

Feels like a reach at RB, with a bunch who should be available. But maybe he'll be excellent.

Low risk versatile OLineman.

This would be a pretty good draft.

[skinsfaninok]

My gut tells me we will stay put at 19 and draft a LB but I know they really love Lance, if he falls past 7 or 8 I could see a legit offer made.

[simbosargos75]

I think we'd take this

Traded back twice in the 2nd to pick up two extra 3rds.


Round 1 Pick 19: Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida (A+)
Round 2 Pick 25 (LAR): Jamin Davis, ILB/OLB, Kentucky (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Jamar Johnson, FS/SS, Indiana (A+)
Round 3 Pick 18: Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC (A+)
Round 3 Pick 24 (LAR): Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 36 (TENN): Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
Round 4 Pick 19: Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 19: Sadarius Hutcherson, OG, South Carolina (A+)
Round 7 Pick 17: Shane Buechele, QB, SMU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 19: William Bradley-King, DE/OLB, Baylor (A+)

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by simbosargos75

I think we'd take this

Traded back twice in the 2nd to pick up two extra 3rds.


Round 1 Pick 19: Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida (A+)
Round 2 Pick 25 (LAR): Jamin Davis, ILB/OLB, Kentucky (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Jamar Johnson, FS/SS, Indiana (A+)
Round 3 Pick 18: Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, USC (A+)
Round 3 Pick 24 (LAR): Shaun Wade, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 36 (TENN): Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
Round 4 Pick 19: Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 19: Sadarius Hutcherson, OG, South Carolina (A+)
Round 7 Pick 17: Shane Buechele, QB, SMU (A+)
Round 7 Pick 19: William Bradley-King, DE/OLB, Baylor (A+)

Pretty disappointed in you. Didn't get an A+ in the 2nd round. You're better than that.