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[Number44]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If they used all that capital for Jones then they better hope he pans out. I doubt that they did though. He could have been had at 6 just by trading directly with the eagles. No need to jump to 3.

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I think that it is fair to say, that no matter who they pick after giving up that much capital, they will certainly be hoping that he pans out.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Number44

I think that it is fair to say, that no matter who they pick after giving up that much capital, they will certainly be hoping that he pans out.

Yep. Plenty of examples of jumping up to the top 3 for a QB - and he doesn't pan out.

I think I saw something the other day that out of the last six or seven QBs that were taken after a team traded into the top 3 to get him, only one is still on his original team (for now) - Sam Darnold

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Number44

I think that it is fair to say, that no matter who they pick after giving up that much capital, they will certainly be hoping that he pans out.

If I am the 49ers I would take the Best non qb at 3. I don't know stats, but I think if you look at the past 10 drafts and the first non-qb picked your chance of an elite player skyrockets.

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[Scalper]

Sewell safest pick in draft.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If I am the 49ers I would take the Best non qb at 3. I don't know stats, but I think if you look at the past 10 drafts and the first non-qb picked your chance of an elite player skyrockets.

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Problem is you don't keep your job trading the farm for non-QBs.
Cerrato would have taken a replacement for our long snapper with the #3 pick.
LOL.

[Scalper]

Watson is probably paying all the accusers to come forward. :-))
He wants out of Houston that bad.
Or you could argue he has to play now to settle all the lawsuits.
LOL.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Scalper

Problem is you don't keep your job trading the farm for non-QBs.

Cerrato would have taken a replacement for our long snapper with the #3 pick.

LOL.

The bigger problem is the best player is an OT and they just signed TW to a major new contract. So now they are either taking the 3rd Qb (assuming 1 and 2 are qbs) or at best the 2nd best non-qb player.

Dumb trade no matter who they take.

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[Scalper]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

The bigger problem is the best player is an OT and they just signed TW to a major new contract. So now they are either taking the 3rd Qb (assuming 1 and 2 are qbs) or at best the 2nd best non-qb player.

Dumb trade no matter who they take.

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You only make that trade for a QB--Bill O'Brien notwithstanding.
They are a legit SB contender with good QB play, just like the Rams. SF was in SB year before this one.
If they win a SB it was not a dumb trade. History suggests that doesn't happen, because you basically have to win it year you make trade or year after, as absence of 1st round picks depletes talent replenishment. Very few trade the farm for QB trades have ever worked out--but you don't need to tell a Skins fan that. If you are a team like Rams or SF with plenty of superstud stars, such trades a bit more defensible than team like ours with holes all over roster and only one legit star player in Young.

You win long term in the NFL by maximizing number of picks, not trading them away. Even Pats suck from bad drafts now, as much as losing Brady. Look at Pats horrible offseason moves, Rams, SF, what's the common thread? Coach essentially acting as GM, even if there is GM, coach has more power. You think Shanny, McVeigh, others, aren't worried about their job in two more years if they don't get over the hump? Examples of why so important to have GM more powerful than coach.

I tend to support your view in general, however. I would NEVER have made that trade. However, I believe SF pretty much knows who Jets are taking and has picked out one of the QBs remaining as being the one they want, no other way you make that trade, and the price might increase as draft approaches, thus you make it now.

You draft a QB without trading the farm, which is the long, hard road. However, if SF gets a 10-15 year starter at QB, they look back in 5 years and consider the trade a bargain. The problem, of course, is that most such trades don't work out because the person selected isn't a stud franchise QB, and it is hard to know a guy won't bust.