Pre Draft Thread 2.0

[Ohioskins]

Monkeydad, you are saying a guy who has played essentially against Division 2 competition,and then sat out this past year is worth the Number 4 pick but the QB who directed the destruction of Clemson in the Nation Championship semi Final (against Trevor Lawrence) is not worth the Number 4 pick? Are you friggin kidding me?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Ohioskins

Monkeydad, you are saying a guy who has played essentially against Division 2 competition,and then sat out this past year is worth the Number 4 pick but the QB who directed the destruction of Clemson in the Nation Championship semi Final (against Trevor Lawrence) is not worth the Number 4 pick? Are you friggin kidding me?

Location: Dublin, Ohio

Fields' career will look a lot iike Haskins', and every other bust OSU QB.

When you play with WRs the caliber of McLaurin and Samuel...and 1st round talent all over the offense, against the likes of Akron, Cincinnti, Rutgers, Indiana and the rest of miserable Big 10 conference...you look good.

Same can be said for Mac Jones. Just playing for Alabama pads his stats.

Between the two, I'd take Jones though. Ohio State has a LONG history of not being able to produce pro QBs. We just learned that lesson. We'd be fools to take another OSU quarterback after what we just went through.

That same QB that beat Clemson got destroyed by Alabama if you want to bring that up.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Location: Dublin, Ohio

Fields' career will look a lot iike Haskins', and every other bust OSU QB.

When you play with WRs the caliber of McLaurin and Samuel...and 1st round talent all over the offense, against the likes of Akron, Cincinnti, Rutgers, Indiana and the rest of miserable Big 10 conference...you look good.

Same can be said for Mac Jones. Just playing for Alabama pads his stats.

Between the two, I'd take Jones though. Ohio State has a LONG history of not being able to produce pro QBs. We just learned that lesson. We'd be fools to take another OSU quarterback after what we just went through.

That same QB that beat Clemson got destroyed by Alabama if you want to bring that up.

I don't think you can judge the player by the school he goes to. There is so much more that goes into it than the school, and it's almost all individual-based. Talent, football IQ, work ethic, coachability, leadership, etc...

I do think the competition they play against matters somewhat in the evaluation process, but it's not a game changer; and if anything having a lot of talent around a QB puts more pressure on them to perform.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I don't think you can judge the player by the school he goes to. There is so much more that goes into it than the school, and it's almost all individual-based. Talent, football IQ, work ethic, coachability, leadership, etc...

I do think the competition they play against matters somewhat in the evaluation process, but it's not a game changer; and if anything having a lot of talent around a QB puts more pressure on them to perform.

Having a lot of talent around QB, like fielding an All-Pro team against normal teams, does but pressure on them, but also makes them look WAY better. Good scouts cut out the gravy train plays and look at the film of NFL type plays, usually a smaller sample set. This leads to significant discrepancy between the Homers wowed by the highlight reels, and what the scouts see. Point is, good scouts can project much more accurately, though still not exact science.

[Scalper]

Originally Posted by Ohioskins

Monkeydad, you are saying a guy who has played essentially against Division 2 competition,and then sat out this past year is worth the Number 4 pick but the QB who directed the destruction of Clemson in the Nation Championship semi Final (against Trevor Lawrence) is not worth the Number 4 pick? Are you friggin kidding me?

You don't mortgage the future. Half the first round QBs will be busts. Some lower rated QBs will be better than the busts, we have to find one of those, if not this year, then next or year after. We have too many holes to trade up. Incredibly stupid move, even if we get Jones or whoever.