Is it just me....

[Redskins_P]

I really don't care about what he says. I mean....its real sad that he has to take shots at his ex team.

He wasn't shit until he came here, and now he's shitting on the Redskins........that bad karma if you ask me.

[saskin]

And he claims we disrespected him.....oh well....it'll be that much more sweeter when we beat them!

[#56fanatic]

I dont see where its a shot at the team, no more than him telling the truth. We weren't winning, at all. If we were do you think people like him, champ would have wanted out. we are an organization in constant flux. Champ got tired of it, smoot and pierce. Cant blame them. They went to organizations that are stable, year in and year out. With exception to the Vikings, but they seem to have turned things around. We have as well, but we say that every year so what would make them believe that and stay. Lets just focus on making this an organization people want to join because of winning tradition, not because Dan offers you the most money.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I dont see where its a shot at the team, no more than him telling the truth. We weren't winning, at all. If we were do you think people like him, champ would have wanted out. we are an organization in constant flux. Champ got tired of it, smoot and pierce. Cant blame them. They went to organizations that are stable, year in and year out.

If that were true, I would agree. However, look at the Gyants record over the last 12 years:

YEAR     RECORD     FINISH              POSTSEASON
2004     6-10-0     T2nd -- NFC East    --
2003     4-12-0     4th -- NFC East     --
2002     10-6-0     2nd -- NFC East     0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs
2001      7-9-0     T3rd -- NFC East    --
2000     12-4-0     1st -- NFC East     2-1 - Lost Superbowl
1999      7-9-0     3rd -- NFC East     --
1998      8-8-0     3rd -- NFC East     --
1997     10-5-1     1st -- NFC East     0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs
1996     6-10-0     5th -- NFC East     --
1995     5-11-0     4th -- NFC East     --
1994      9-7-0     2nd -- NFC East     --

A couple more playoff appearances, but that doesn't look a whole lot different than our record. LOTS of losing seasons, and NO consistency (other than losing).

EDIT: It just occurred to me that maybe you meant that the organization was constant, as opposed to consistently winning. If so, does the consistency of a losing organization really matter?

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

If that were true, I would agree. However, look at the Gyants record over the last 12 years:

YEAR RECORD FINISH POSTSEASON
2004 6-10-0 T2nd -- NFC East --
2003 4-12-0 4th -- NFC East --
2002 10-6-0 2nd -- NFC East 0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs
2001 7-9-0 T3rd -- NFC East --
2000 12-4-0 1st -- NFC East 2-1 - Lost Superbowl
1999 7-9-0 3rd -- NFC East --
1998 8-8-0 3rd -- NFC East --
1997 10-5-1 1st -- NFC East 0-1 - Lost Wild Card Playoffs
1996 6-10-0 5th -- NFC East --
1995 5-11-0 4th -- NFC East --
1994 9-7-0 2nd -- NFC East --

A couple more playoff appearances, but that doesn't look a whole lot different than our record. LOTS of losing seasons, and NO consistency (other than losing).

How many head coaching changes with the Giants compared to the Redskins? Two to five or six. The organization as a whole is what I am referring to. However, the Giants have gone to the playoffs 3 times compared to our 1. One superbowl compared to our ZERO!! I'd say they have had better years since 97 than we have.