Fresh Start Political Thread

[SunnySide]

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky has made confirming conservative judges his singular focus. In 2018 he described his goal at a gala of the Federalist Society, the four-decades-old legal network that’s become the pipeline for Republican judicial appointees: It’s “to do everything we can, for as long as we can, to transform the federal judiciary, because everything else we do is transitory.”

The previous two Democratic presidents, Bill Clinton and Obama, each left their Republican successors more than 100 openings among the roughly 850 seats on district and appeals courts, because Senate Republicans blocked many of their nominees. The other vacancy Obama famously left was the one that should have gone to his third Supreme Court pick, Merrick Garland, but for McConnell’s brazen blockade in 2016 on grounds that the president elected in November should fill the seat.

McConnell had the Senate continue to confirm judges even after Trump’s defeat in 2020, vowing he’d “leave no vacancy behind.” Not since 1897 had the Senate confirmed a judicial nominee of a defeated president. It confirmed 14 of Trump’s.
The Trump years

Trump’s 226 successful appointments to the trial, appellate, and Supreme courts in a single term will stand as one of his foremost legacies, and all but certainly his most enduring.

When Trump left office, his picks comprised one-third of the Supreme Court, 30% of the 13 circuit courts, and more than one-quarter of the judges presiding over the nation’s 94 district courts. He appointed 54 judges to the circuit courts that are the final word on most appeals—just one less than Obama selected over eight years.

https://time.com/6074707/republicans...ess-mcconnell/

SCOTUS is pretty much a political branch at this point imo.

You can thank Mitch McConnell.

A few more political stunts like they did with the Texas abortion law and Id say pack it with an absurd 50 justices. Make it the complete farce it is becoming.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky has made confirming conservative judges his singular focus. In 2018 he described his goal at a gala of the Federalist Society, the four-decades-old legal network that’s become the pipeline for Republican judicial appointees: It’s “to do everything we can, for as long as we can, to transform the federal judiciary, because everything else we do is transitory.”

The previous two Democratic presidents, Bill Clinton and Obama, each left their Republican successors more than 100 openings among the roughly 850 seats on district and appeals courts, because Senate Republicans blocked many of their nominees. The other vacancy Obama famously left was the one that should have gone to his third Supreme Court pick, Merrick Garland, but for McConnell’s brazen blockade in 2016 on grounds that the president elected in November should fill the seat.

McConnell had the Senate continue to confirm judges even after Trump’s defeat in 2020, vowing he’d “leave no vacancy behind.” Not since 1897 had the Senate confirmed a judicial nominee of a defeated president. It confirmed 14 of Trump’s.
The Trump years

Trump’s 226 successful appointments to the trial, appellate, and Supreme courts in a single term will stand as one of his foremost legacies, and all but certainly his most enduring.

When Trump left office, his picks comprised one-third of the Supreme Court, 30% of the 13 circuit courts, and more than one-quarter of the judges presiding over the nation’s 94 district courts. He appointed 54 judges to the circuit courts that are the final word on most appeals—just one less than Obama selected over eight years.

https://time.com/6074707/republicans...ess-mcconnell/

SCOTUS is pretty much a political branch at this point imo.

You can thank Mitch McConnell.

A few more political stunts like they did with the Texas abortion law and Id say pack it with an absurd 50 justices. Make it the complete farce it is becoming.

I do not agree with McConnell on this or 99% of other issues. The President is the President for 4 years. Not 3 or 3.5 or 3.9. It's a 4 year fucking term.

[sdskinsfan2001]

I don't get why abortion is the number 1 most important thing to the democratic party as a whole. It really is mind-blowing. Throw the whole system out because 1 state passed a law banning abortions after 6 weeks.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't get why abortion is the number 1 most important thing to the democratic party as a whole. It really is mind-blowing. Throw the whole system out because 1 state passed a law banning abortions after 6 weeks.

We dont want religion guiding or playing a part in our government or democracy.

Pretty simple and straight forward. And no, before you start making false arguments like last time .. that doesnt mean you cant be Christian and a politician. It means you cant use the Bible as a source or motivation and that you will follow and uphold US law.

Roe v Wade is established US law. The 5 justices are now playing political games by not issuing an injunction until they can have a full hearing, in which they will have no choice but overturn the Texas law so they are allowing this unconstitutional law to stay in effect as long as possible until they are forced to do their job and affirm Roe v Wade.

If you dont think republicans packing the court to push a christain conservative political agenda .. then having the SCOTUS actually start acting to promote that christain conservative political agenda OVER the established laws of this Country ...

Keep you fucking king james, man written book out of my fucking government.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

We dont want religion guiding or playing a part in our government or democracy.

Pretty simple and straight forward. And no, before you start making false arguments like last time .. that doesnt mean you cant be Christian and a politician. It means you cant use the Bible as a source or motivation and that you will follow and uphold US law.

Roe v Wade is established US law. The 5 justices are now playing political games by not issuing an injunction until they can have a full hearing, in which they will have no choice but overturn the Texas law so they are allowing this unconstitutional law to stay in effect as long as possible until they are forced to do their job and affirm Roe v Wade.

If you dont think republicans packing the court to push a christain conservative political agenda .. then having the SCOTUS actually start acting to promote that christain conservative political agenda OVER the established laws of this Country ...

Keep you fucking king james, man written book out of my fucking government.

Republicans should just be called redcoats. Which is ironic because their most hardcore members pose as a militia. It’s like they are trying to overthrow themselves…..

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

We dont want religion guiding or playing a part in our government or democracy.

Pretty simple and straight forward. And no, before you start making false arguments like last time .. that doesnt mean you cant be Christian and a politician. It means you cant use the Bible as a source or motivation and that you will follow and uphold US law.

Roe v Wade is established US law. The 5 justices are now playing political games by not issuing an injunction until they can have a full hearing, in which they will have no choice but overturn the Texas law so they are allowing this unconstitutional law to stay in effect as long as possible until they are forced to do their job and affirm Roe v Wade.

If you dont think republicans packing the court to push a christain conservative political agenda .. then having the SCOTUS actually start acting to promote that christain conservative political agenda OVER the established laws of this Country ...

Keep you fucking king james, man written book out of my fucking government.

We all get our values from somewhere and are guided by those values. You are basically saying that anyone that gets their values from something you don't approve of, shouldn't have a say in decisions. You can't be a Christian and make decisions that aren't in line with your values (unless you're a phony Iike Pelosi, Biden, etc.). You are stating that they have to, so basically they shouldn't be in politics.

In addition, I'm not against abortion solely because I'm a Christian, which certainly plays a part in it. I'm against it because I believe life begins at inception, and I'm against murder.

Why you think being an atheist gives your values a higher meaning than anyone elses is beyond me.

Your atheism is no less of a religion than my Christianity. Hopefully you find Jesus one day. I'll say a prayer for you today.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Your atheism is no less of a religion than my Christianity. Hopefully you find Jesus one day. I'll say a prayer for you today.

There are 33 millions "gods"in Hinduism? Do you also believe in them? Do you believe in Islam? Moromism and the goal plates?

No?

Fact is the difference btw me and you is that I dont believe in 1 more god than you. Just 1 more. (This is from a comedian). But this isnt about the validity of religion or ones right to practice their religion. No matter how hard you try and steer the conversation towards some false equivalency "freedom of religion". This is about freedom from religion.

No one is saying you cant be christian or go to church. But you know that.

I think you can understand the importance of separation from church and state, importance of justices to apply US law and not the bible. You just choose not to. You talk in bad faith.

You play obtuse on here sometimes and it makes talking with you pointless.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

There are 33 millions "gods"in Hinduism? Do you also believe in them? Do you believe in Islam? Moromism and the goal plates?

No?

Fact is the difference btw me and you is that I dont believe in 1 more god than you. Just 1 more. (This is from a comedian). But this isnt about the validity of religion or ones right to practice their religion. No matter how hard you try and steer the conversation towards some false equivalency "freedom of religion". This is about freedom from religion.

No one is saying you cant be christian or go to church. But you know that.

I think you can understand the importance of separation from church and state, importance of justices to apply US law and not the bible. You just choose not to. You talk in bad faith.

You play obtuse on here sometimes and it makes talking with you pointless.

All of those religions are no less of a religion than Christianity either. I don't get your point. I don't care what people choose to believe. And I'd bet they get most of their values and morals from their beliefs too. My point was that if you believe in 0 gods or 1 million gods, those are no less of a religion than any other belief system.

There is nothing in the constitution that says freedom from religion or separation of church and state. But I think you know that and are just being obtuse.

Your basic argument, and we know you only attack Christianity, is that if you believe in God, your values are irrelevant and shouldn't be allowed in making decisions. Call me whatever you want, this is your argument.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

There are 33 millions "gods"in Hinduism? Do you also believe in them? Do you believe in Islam? Moromism and the goal plates?

No?

Fact is the difference btw me and you is that I dont believe in 1 more god than you. Just 1 more. (This is from a comedian). But this isnt about the validity of religion or ones right to practice their religion. No matter how hard you try and steer the conversation towards some false equivalency "freedom of religion". This is about freedom from religion.

No one is saying you cant be christian or go to church. But you know that.

I think you can understand the importance of separation from church and state, importance of justices to apply US law and not the bible. You just choose not to. You talk in bad faith.

You play obtuse on here sometimes and it makes talking with you pointless.

...........he ain't playing.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't get why abortion is the number 1 most important thing to the democratic party as a whole. It really is mind-blowing. Throw the whole system out because 1 state passed a law banning abortions after 6 weeks.

I dont get it either, but than again we aren’t women so……..

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I don't get why abortion is the number 1 most important thing to the democratic party as a whole. It really is mind-blowing. Throw the whole system out because 1 state passed a law banning abortions after 6 weeks.

You really think that is what this is about??? This is about a political factor wanting to control the SC for their own purpose's. The RIGHT WING NUTS, TEA PARTY< whatever you want to call them want to over turn laws that have been ruled on for Decades. Republican's chose Abortion.......not Democrat's be honest at least.

[Chico23231]

What a hypocrite…silence when New York and others attempt and succeed expand to late term abortion which is murder…big mad when Texas restricts

No surprise

[sdskinsfan2001]

As I previously stated, I disagree with McConnell and the republican party on how they handled the Garland nomination. That should have went thru the normal process and there was way more than enough time to get it done.

But they absolutely had the right to get Barrett onto the court. And to pretend like democrats wouldn't have done the exact same thing if they could is disingenuous at best.

[Chico23231]

Going further in this thread out of respect, refer to McConnell as the Apex Predator because he sits on top, alone, of the food chain. There is none higher

[MTK]

All this hot air for something very unlikely to happen.