Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Commanders Football > Locker Room Main Forum

Locker Room Main Forum Commanders Football & NFL discussion


With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Locker Room Main Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-28-2021, 09:13 AM   #1
Chico23231
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 35,307
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by GridIron26 View Post
Would you draft him over JOK, J. Davis or Z. Collins?
Over Davis and Collins, yes

Not over JOK
__________________
My pronouns: King/Your ruler

He Gets Us
Chico23231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 10:20 AM   #2
BaltimoreSkins
Pro Bowl
 
BaltimoreSkins's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Parkton, MD
Posts: 5,890
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post


This man please
Same. I want a ballhawk out there.
BaltimoreSkins is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 10:36 AM   #3
Scalper
Registered User
 
Scalper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 419
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins View Post
Same. I want a ballhawk out there.
We need a true center fielder FS. Moehrig is not that. He just adds to logjam at SS or creates more coverage issues.
I favor BPA. Irrespective of position.
If it is close, I go the high five leverage positions in order: QB,LT,DE,CB,WR. Again LT above DE because he protects QB, CB above WR because shutdown corners much harder to find than WR. We have 2 stud DEs, so could obviously pass on that, but we could easily use another 3rd corner or a true #1 WR if someone falls. Alas, I think RR and staff are thinking filling need.
Best outcome is still top-5 QB falling to 19. Doubt it.
Second best outcome is a LT, dominant pass blocker care less about run blocking, falls.
Third best outcome if first two don't happen trade down and get 2nd tier LT or QB.
Fourth best outcome is CB or WR falls to us at 19.
We are DYING for a thumper in middle, at LB, but you can get that guy with 2nd 3rd round pick. I would not be surprised to see us reach at LB.
Scalper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 10:44 AM   #4
sdskinsfan2001
Living Legend
 
sdskinsfan2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Hanahan, South Carolina
Age: 43
Posts: 20,874
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scalper View Post
We need a true center fielder FS. Moehrig is not that. He just adds to logjam at SS or creates more coverage issues.
I favor BPA. Irrespective of position.
If it is close, I go the high five leverage positions in order: QB,LT,DE,CB,WR. Again LT above DE because he protects QB, CB above WR because shutdown corners much harder to find than WR. We have 2 stud DEs, so could obviously pass on that, but we could easily use another 3rd corner or a true #1 WR if someone falls. Alas, I think RR and staff are thinking filling need.
Best outcome is still top-5 QB falling to 19. Doubt it.
Second best outcome is a LT, dominant pass blocker care less about run blocking, falls.
Third best outcome if first two don't happen trade down and get 2nd tier LT or QB.
Fourth best outcome is CB or WR falls to us at 19.
We are DYING for a thumper in middle, at LB, but you can get that guy with 2nd 3rd round pick. I would not be surprised to see us reach at LB.
You are literally the only person I've seen anywhere that says he can't play deep safety. What are you basing this off of?
__________________
"You can be my wingman anytime."
"Bulls**t. You can be mine."
sdskinsfan2001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2021, 08:53 PM   #5
Scalper
Registered User
 
Scalper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 419
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001 View Post
You are literally the only person I've seen anywhere that says he can't play deep safety. What are you basing this off of?
Watching him.
He is a balanced safety at best.
Nothing wrong with that.
He is also very talented.
But I want a dedicated center fielder.
I spend 1st round pick on FS, I want a Earl Thomas or Sean Taylor type player.
That is not Moehrig.
True center fielders later in draft.
I also don't think Moehrig anywhere near BPA at 19.
Scalper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 11:11 AM   #6
vallin21
The Starter
 
vallin21's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,198
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scalper View Post
We need a true center fielder FS. Moehrig is not that. He just adds to logjam at SS or creates more coverage issues.
I favor BPA. Irrespective of position.
If it is close, I go the high five leverage positions in order: QB,LT,DE,CB,WR. Again LT above DE because he protects QB, CB above WR because shutdown corners much harder to find than WR. We have 2 stud DEs, so could obviously pass on that, but we could easily use another 3rd corner or a true #1 WR if someone falls. Alas, I think RR and staff are thinking filling need.
Best outcome is still top-5 QB falling to 19. Doubt it.
Second best outcome is a LT, dominant pass blocker care less about run blocking, falls.
Third best outcome if first two don't happen trade down and get 2nd tier LT or QB.
Fourth best outcome is CB or WR falls to us at 19.
We are DYING for a thumper in middle, at LB, but you can get that guy with 2nd 3rd round pick. I would not be surprised to see us reach at LB.
Moehrig is a FS, with coverage skills. His game is similar to Earl Thomas, not saying he’s him, but he’s definitely not a SS.

At 19, One possibly two top players will fall and be available. We’ll see
vallin21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2021, 08:59 PM   #7
Scalper
Registered User
 
Scalper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 419
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by vallin21 View Post
Moehrig is a FS, with coverage skills. His game is similar to Earl Thomas, not saying he’s him, but he’s definitely not a SS.

At 19, One possibly two top players will fall and be available. We’ll see
I respectfully disagree. He may be a balanced safety, and is certainly talented, but is not a true center fielder at next level. Simply not quick twitch enough.
Scalper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 11:15 AM   #8
CRedskinsRule
Living Legend
 
CRedskinsRule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 59
Posts: 21,744
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scalper View Post
... We have 2 stud DEs, so could obviously pass on that, but we could easily use another 3rd corner or a true #1 WR if someone falls. ...
We have a true #1 WR, likewise your dismissing Scherff. Some of your posts are interesting but you lose a ton of credibility when you blatantly disregard consensus (NFL GM consensus not home fan angst consensus) opinions of talent. Not asking for a lengthy diatribe of how you see it, just giving you another fan's opinion on how I read your treatises.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

Last edited by CRedskinsRule; 04-28-2021 at 11:49 AM.
CRedskinsRule is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 10:32 AM   #9
Chief X_Phackter
Pro Bowl
 
Chief X_Phackter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lakewood, CO
Posts: 5,644
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post


This man please
I would be just fine with that.
Chief X_Phackter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 11:07 AM   #10
CRedskinsRule
Living Legend
 
CRedskinsRule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 59
Posts: 21,744
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post




This man please
Edit. Disregard. Answered already.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk
CRedskinsRule is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 09:08 AM   #11
Chico23231
Warpath Hall of Fame
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 35,307
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

I also think if a corner is there that falls they would take him.

They would play the boundary and people forget, Fuller is extremely versatile. He excelled at slot and played some safety in KC.
__________________
My pronouns: King/Your ruler

He Gets Us
Chico23231 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 09:12 AM   #12
punch it in
From a Land Down Under
 
punch it in's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: toms river, nj
Age: 54
Posts: 24,394
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Tucker is being projected at LT in the pros. Nice that he has versatility though. If Scherrff bolts next year he could slide over or stay at LT depending on what we do at G. I think Tucker is the pick. Thats my final answer.
punch it in is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 10:39 AM   #13
Chief X_Phackter
Pro Bowl
 
Chief X_Phackter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lakewood, CO
Posts: 5,644
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Moehrig is a Free Safety, and projected to be a damn good one - period.
Chief X_Phackter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2021, 09:08 PM   #14
Scalper
Registered User
 
Scalper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2020
Posts: 419
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter View Post
Moehrig is a Free Safety, and projected to be a damn good one - period.
Projected. :-)
He is a balanced S who has played some deep.
He is not a prototypical center fielder.
Scalper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2021, 10:47 AM   #15
Chief X_Phackter
Pro Bowl
 
Chief X_Phackter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lakewood, CO
Posts: 5,644
Re: With the 19th Pick, the WFT selects....

"Moehrig put up big numbers in his last two seasons as a starter and was a two-time First-Team All-Big 12 selection. He was named to seven All-American teams as well. In the past two seasons he took part in nine takeaways which tied for second in the FBS. This past season his 11 passes defended trailed only teammate Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson (13) in the Big 12. He placed third on the Horned Frogs with 47 tackles, including 2.0 for loss."

"Very talented height-weight-speed prospect with the range and ball skills to become an impact defender at the next level. Moehrig possesses the overall talent to play in a variety of coverages, including over the slot against big targets, but his talent might be best served as a high safety where his instincts and anticipation lead him to the football. He's a talented ball tracker with soft hands and does a very good job of maintaining balance and positioning to make a play..."

"Trevon Moehrig is a free safety that has satisfied multiple roles for the Horned Frogs. A consistent and urgent single-high player, he’s a free-flowing mover that’s at his best when able to patrol the middle of the field. With seven career interceptions, he’s proven to not only be a constant ball disruptor, but he’s a safety that can change the momentum of games by getting the ball back to his team...Ideal Role: Starting free safety."

"Moehrig has adequate size, but excellent versatility and instincts. He can play in the deep post or cover in the slot. He is a smooth, fluid mover in man coverage underneath. He also possesses ideal anticipation and range from the back end. He has the ability to consistently match patterns and position himself for plays on the ball... He will provide his defensive coordinator with options, which is exactly what's desired in 2021."
Chief X_Phackter is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 3.90745 seconds with 11 queries