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Old 04-28-2021, 08:40 AM   #1
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Old 04-28-2021, 08:49 AM   #2
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He will be there at 19. Would like Darrisaw or Slater more but they probably will not be. Especially Slater. What would it take to move up like 6 spots for a tackle? I would love to cement the o line. Slater can play every position. Some say he is better than Sewell.
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He will be there at 19. Would like Darrisaw or Slater more but they probably will not be. Especially Slater. What would it take to move up like 6 spots for a tackle? I would love to cement the o line. Slater can play every position. Some say he is better than Sewell.
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Would you draft him over JOK, J. Davis or Z. Collins?
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Would you draft him over JOK, J. Davis or Z. Collins?


Yes, hell yes, and yes.
Edit: maybe not over JOK.
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Would you draft him over JOK, J. Davis or Z. Collins?
Over Davis and Collins, yes

Not over JOK
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Same. I want a ballhawk out there.
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Same. I want a ballhawk out there.
We need a true center fielder FS. Moehrig is not that. He just adds to logjam at SS or creates more coverage issues.
I favor BPA. Irrespective of position.
If it is close, I go the high five leverage positions in order: QB,LT,DE,CB,WR. Again LT above DE because he protects QB, CB above WR because shutdown corners much harder to find than WR. We have 2 stud DEs, so could obviously pass on that, but we could easily use another 3rd corner or a true #1 WR if someone falls. Alas, I think RR and staff are thinking filling need.
Best outcome is still top-5 QB falling to 19. Doubt it.
Second best outcome is a LT, dominant pass blocker care less about run blocking, falls.
Third best outcome if first two don't happen trade down and get 2nd tier LT or QB.
Fourth best outcome is CB or WR falls to us at 19.
We are DYING for a thumper in middle, at LB, but you can get that guy with 2nd 3rd round pick. I would not be surprised to see us reach at LB.
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We need a true center fielder FS. Moehrig is not that. He just adds to logjam at SS or creates more coverage issues.
I favor BPA. Irrespective of position.
If it is close, I go the high five leverage positions in order: QB,LT,DE,CB,WR. Again LT above DE because he protects QB, CB above WR because shutdown corners much harder to find than WR. We have 2 stud DEs, so could obviously pass on that, but we could easily use another 3rd corner or a true #1 WR if someone falls. Alas, I think RR and staff are thinking filling need.
Best outcome is still top-5 QB falling to 19. Doubt it.
Second best outcome is a LT, dominant pass blocker care less about run blocking, falls.
Third best outcome if first two don't happen trade down and get 2nd tier LT or QB.
Fourth best outcome is CB or WR falls to us at 19.
We are DYING for a thumper in middle, at LB, but you can get that guy with 2nd 3rd round pick. I would not be surprised to see us reach at LB.
You are literally the only person I've seen anywhere that says he can't play deep safety. What are you basing this off of?
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You are literally the only person I've seen anywhere that says he can't play deep safety. What are you basing this off of?
Watching him.
He is a balanced safety at best.
Nothing wrong with that.
He is also very talented.
But I want a dedicated center fielder.
I spend 1st round pick on FS, I want a Earl Thomas or Sean Taylor type player.
That is not Moehrig.
True center fielders later in draft.
I also don't think Moehrig anywhere near BPA at 19.
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Watching him.
He is a balanced safety at best.
Nothing wrong with that.
He is also very talented.
But I want a dedicated center fielder.
I spend 1st round pick on FS, I want a Earl Thomas or Sean Taylor type player.
That is not Moehrig.
True center fielders later in draft.
I also don't think Moehrig anywhere near BPA at 19.
You're either most advanced FS scout in the draft, or you are dead wrong. Bold move Cotton.
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You're either most advanced FS scout in the draft, or you are dead wrong. Bold move Cotton.
I am not the most advanced FS scout. I am also not dead wrong, though am not infallible obviously. Lot of range between those two extremes.
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We need a true center fielder FS. Moehrig is not that. He just adds to logjam at SS or creates more coverage issues.
I favor BPA. Irrespective of position.
If it is close, I go the high five leverage positions in order: QB,LT,DE,CB,WR. Again LT above DE because he protects QB, CB above WR because shutdown corners much harder to find than WR. We have 2 stud DEs, so could obviously pass on that, but we could easily use another 3rd corner or a true #1 WR if someone falls. Alas, I think RR and staff are thinking filling need.
Best outcome is still top-5 QB falling to 19. Doubt it.
Second best outcome is a LT, dominant pass blocker care less about run blocking, falls.
Third best outcome if first two don't happen trade down and get 2nd tier LT or QB.
Fourth best outcome is CB or WR falls to us at 19.
We are DYING for a thumper in middle, at LB, but you can get that guy with 2nd 3rd round pick. I would not be surprised to see us reach at LB.
Moehrig is a FS, with coverage skills. His game is similar to Earl Thomas, not saying he’s him, but he’s definitely not a SS.

At 19, One possibly two top players will fall and be available. We’ll see
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Moehrig is a FS, with coverage skills. His game is similar to Earl Thomas, not saying he’s him, but he’s definitely not a SS.

At 19, One possibly two top players will fall and be available. We’ll see
I respectfully disagree. He may be a balanced safety, and is certainly talented, but is not a true center fielder at next level. Simply not quick twitch enough.
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Old 04-28-2021, 11:15 AM   #15
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... We have 2 stud DEs, so could obviously pass on that, but we could easily use another 3rd corner or a true #1 WR if someone falls. ...
We have a true #1 WR, likewise your dismissing Scherff. Some of your posts are interesting but you lose a ton of credibility when you blatantly disregard consensus (NFL GM consensus not home fan angst consensus) opinions of talent. Not asking for a lengthy diatribe of how you see it, just giving you another fan's opinion on how I read your treatises.

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