Fitzmagic thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I put the offense on Scott Turner. He has the horses. He has to call a better game ESPECIALLY in the first quarter! We were miserable last year in the first 20 minutes of the games.

His playcalling bordered on awful last year. You have to adjust according to who your horses are. Last year he did not do that. He was just calling plays and was oblivious to the fact that he did not have the horses. This year he will probably get conservative. Lol.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

His playcalling bordered on awful last year. You have to adjust according to who your horses are. Last year he did not do that. He was just calling plays and was oblivious to the fact that he did not have the horses. This year he will probably get conservative. Lol.

Turner was the opposite of Gruden. He couldn't plan the start of a game for anything, but seemed good at in-game and halftime adjustments. We can't spot teams 14 to 20 points because the defense is put in terrible positions early and expect the defense to get to the next level. They have to know that for every 1 FitzTragic event, the offense will create time and plays that gives the defense time to set and demolish.

[Pervis_Griffith]

I am more bullish on the upcoming season after reading breakdowns on our defensive personnel, and the history of Rivera and Del Rio.

The biggest difference for the D this year will be forcing itself on the offense, instead of a bending-not-breaking approach that was employed last year. With that kind of Defense, your Offense can be more than just a ball control kind of attack.

And the offense has certainly added weapons all over the place, and beefed up the O-Line with versatile, relatively young, personnel.

Honestly ... this team could be way better than we're afraid to admit right now. We as fans are fighting 20 years of bad-football-PTSD, but if the pieces fall the way they look like they've been picked to do, this could be a special year.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Pervis_Griffith

I am more bullish on the upcoming season after reading breakdowns on our defensive personnel, and the history of Rivera and Del Rio.



The biggest difference for the D this year will be forcing itself on the offense, instead of a bending-not-breaking approach that was employed last year. With that kind of Defense, your Offense can be more than just a ball control kind of attack.



And the offense has certainly added weapons all over the place, and beefed up the O-Line with versatile, relatively young, personnel.



Honestly ... this team could be way better than we're afraid to admit right now. We as fans are fighting 20 years of bad-football-PTSD, but if the pieces fall the way they look like they've been picked to do, this could be a special year.

I agree 100%. We all know it comes down to execution but across every level on this team there are top performers or rising stars. The energy and Rivera's get it done attitude seem to be overwhelmingly present. I do love that the team will get tested by a LOT of the elite qbs and defenses. IF they come together this could be a very special year.

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[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

His playcalling bordered on awful last year. You have to adjust according to who your horses are. Last year he did not do that. He was just calling plays and was oblivious to the fact that he did not have the horses. This year he will probably get conservative. Lol.

So I don’t mean this in a snarky way, I’m genuinely asking.....so what would your plan be with the worst starting QB play in the league...only one NFL caliber receiver....the only worthwhile TE on the roster is a converted QB....your OL starts Geron Christian and Wes Martin....and your best RB is a rookie with no training camp or offseason and was a WR 6 months earlier....what’s your plan? Honestly I’m amazed we did as well as we did. I think you’ll see a much better and well designed offense this year.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

So I don’t mean this in a snarky way, I’m genuinely asking.....so what would your plan be with the worst starting QB play in the league...only one NFL caliber receiver....the only worthwhile TE on the roster is a converted QB....your OL starts Geron Christian and Wes Martin....and your best RB is a rookie with no training camp or offseason and was a WR 6 months earlier....what’s your plan? Honestly I’m amazed we did as well as we did. I think you’ll see a much better and well designed offense this year.

This is exactly how I see it.

It's pretty obvious that Turner did adjust his offense last year, due to what he had (or didn't have) at his disposal. He was pretty handcuffed for the better part of the season, and it is amazing they had any success at all really.

This year the talent at every position group on offense is improved, more healthy, and will have a full offseason to prepare.

He will have no excuses.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

So I don’t mean this in a snarky way, I’m genuinely asking.....so what would your plan be with the worst starting QB play in the league...only one NFL caliber receiver....the only worthwhile TE on the roster is a converted QB....your OL starts Geron Christian and Wes Martin....and your best RB is a rookie with no training camp or offseason and was a WR 6 months earlier....what’s your plan? Honestly I’m amazed we did as well as we did. I think you’ll see a much better and well designed offense this year.

Completely was behind the 8 ball as far as talent. Said that myself. But I just feel like he could have simplified things. I understand that is not a recipe for success but with our defense last year we just needed to be semi efficient on offense and he was calling plays like he was the 99 Rams. Idk. Im certainly willing to see what he can do this year. As for what would I have done … well … idk. Lol. Im not an OC in the NFL. I just remember not liking his play calls based on our offense and the situations. Because when you have lemons you need to make lemonade. He made shit-ade.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Completely was behind the 8 ball as far as talent. Said that myself. But I just feel like he could have simplified things. I understand that is not a recipe for success but with our defense last year we just needed to be semi efficient on offense and he was calling plays like he was the 99 Rams. Idk. Im certainly willing to see what he can do this year. As for what would I have done … well … idk. Lol. Im not an OC in the NFL. I just remember not liking his play calls based on our offense and the situations. Because when you have lemons you need to make lemonade. He made shit-ade.

I’m pretty sure that had more to do with Haskins being totally worthless than anything else.

[irish]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

I’m pretty sure that had more to do with Haskins being totally worthless than anything else.

Its still too early to decide if Haskins is worthless as it is to decide if Heinicke
is great. The sample size of games played is just too small.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by irish

Its still too early to decide if Haskins is worthless as it is to decide if Heinicke
is great. The sample size of games played is just too small.

His playing time here last year was useless. As I re phrase for em

[irish]

Originally Posted by Meks

His playing time here last year was useless. As I re phrase for em

I agree with that, he was useless.

When I look at the stats, Haskins is a seasoned vet (16 games, 13 starts, in 2 seasons) compared to Heinicke (8 games, 1 start, in 3 seasons). One can begin to draw conclusions about Haskins. Heinicke has barely played so its impossible to figure out what he is.

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by irish

Its still too early to decide if Haskins is worthless as it is to decide if Heinicke
is great. The sample size of games played is just too small.

As far as Haskins goes....what did the eye test tell you.....

[irish]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

As far as Haskins goes....what did the eye test tell you.....

It told me he can throw the ball and in the right system could succeed. Of course that success depends on his attitude and work ethic as much as his physical skill.

If he doesn't succeed with Pgh he wont make it anywhere because Pgh is the most stable organization in the NFL and he needs that stability to excel. He went from the most f'd up organization in the NFL to Pgh so its now or never.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by MissouriSkin

As far as Haskins goes....what did the eye test tell you.....

That he sucks….