Fresh Start Political Thread

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

How did Trump kiss Putin's ass? I'm legitimately asking.

Was Obama tough on Putin?

Was Trump any different than the last couple administration's before him?

Seems like Trump is held to a different standard than anyone else because most of you hate him personally.

Bothsideism definitely applies when it comes to Trump and Obama interactions with Russia/Putin - Obama was soft even before he was inaugurated (The after I'm elected comments, the wrecking of NATO missile defense policy etc. and Trump has been praising/defending Putin since he was elected.

Biden hasn't been as soft as either (yet?) but that is almost certainly due to Trump's coziness with Putin rather than a rational policy decision (although in this case it works out).

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Bothsideism definitely applies when it comes to Trump and Obama interactions with Russia/Putin - Obama was soft even before he was inaugurated (The after I'm elected comments, the wrecking of NATO missile defense policy etc. and Trump has been praising/defending Putin since he was elected.

Biden hasn't been as soft as either (yet?) but that is almost certainly due to Trump's coziness with Putin rather than a rational policy decision (although in this case it works out).

Chico has a point about the lifting of the pipeline sanction - hmm close Keystone and hurt Canada and the US, but remove sanctions connected to the Euro pipeline and help Russia. I withdraw my assertion that Biden is harder on the Russians so far, he is just as bad as his two predecessors.