Come up with a new name for the Redskins

[irish]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

This, I think at this point, on top of wanting to make it right, they are taking time so most people will accept that Redskins is gone, then actually start wanting a new name, and most of them will be glad one is finally picked, even if they're not fans of the final choice. I think Jason's team is being very smart with the whole process AND how they communicate about it.
Any Redwolves/Wolves option has my clear cut preference, and I think pleasing a vast majority of the fan base would be smart marketing choice, so there are reasons to be hopeful IMO.

Redwolves has an edge as it comes to connecting to the past, (ie keeping HTTR and the fight song, and simply having part of the former name in the new one), and Redwolves are actually originally from the area (ok not only from DC, but which animal comes from only one city ?).

Wolves has an edge as it's more simple, and some people hate the former but are ok with the later. Wolves of Washington just sounds good, the W stands for both.

Good with both.

WFT wants nothing to do with anything that could be remotely related to Redskins and as tenuous as Redwolves sounds, trolls will find a way to make something bad out of using "red" in the name. That's why WFT wont choose it or anything with "red" in the name. They might pick Wolves but it wont be Redwolves. And the days of singing HTTR, in whatever form, are over. The connection to the past will be through the colors, not the name.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by irish

WFT wants nothing to do with anything that could be remotely related to Redskins and as tenuous as Redwolves sounds, trolls will find a way to make something bad out of using "red" in the name. That's why WFT wont choose it or anything with "red" in the name. They might pick Wolves but it wont be Redwolves. And the days of singing HTTR, in whatever form, are over. The connection to the past will be through the colors, not the name.

What's clear is they're gonna stay clear of any NA reference, and for sure they're gonna be cautious with past connections... but he also said in the same brief "Though I wasn't here for the rescinding of the name, I believe it was done with faith that the connective ties of this fan base run deep and that the deeply loved traditions and positive aspects of our identity can be preserved and even enhanced under a new name that does not offend any member of our community."

So I wouldn't be so sure any "Red" name option is 100% out.

[irish]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

What's clear is they're gonna stay clear of any NA reference, and for sure they're gonna be cautious with past connections... but he also said in the same brief "Though I wasn't here for the rescinding of the name, I believe it was done with faith that the connective ties of this fan base run deep and that the deeply loved traditions and positive aspects of our identity can be preserved and even enhanced under a new name that does not offend any member of our community."

So I wouldn't be so sure any "Red" name option is 100% out.

That's where keeping the colors comes in. Do I think a "red" name is 100% out, no. I think it about 95% out.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by irish

WFT wants nothing to do with anything that could be remotely related to Redskins and as tenuous as Redwolves sounds, trolls will find a way to make something bad out of using "red" in the name. That's why WFT wont choose it or anything with "red" in the name. They might pick Wolves but it wont be Redwolves. And the days of singing HTTR, in whatever form, are over. The connection to the past will be through the colors, not the name.

We have given up enough to the trolls.

If the trolls start hollering about Redwolves, get an official out to the mikes- someone NOT named Snyder- and politely, but firmly tell them they are being ridiculous. Post a few pictures of an actual red wolf to make the point. Then declare case closed and move on.

We have already capitulated to mass hysteria. It is long past time to cease being the court jesters and run a football team.

[irish]

Originally Posted by JackLord

We have given up enough to the trolls.

If the trolls start hollering about Redwolves, get an official out to the mikes- someone NOT named Snyder- and politely, but firmly tell them they are being ridiculous. Post a few pictures of an actual red wolf to make the point. Then declare case closed and move on.

We have already capitulated to mass hysteria. It is long past time to cease being the court jesters and run a football team.

This is precisely what they don't want to do. They aren't taking two years to come up up with a new name to have to explain how its not related to the old name.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by irish

This is precisely what they don't want to do. They aren't taking two years to come up up with a new name to have to explain how its not related to the old name.

What is wrong with it being related to the old name?

We were the Redskins for a long, long time and in 2 different cities. We were also briefly the Braves. We have a longer history than most teams. One would think it reasonable that we cannot sever everything related to that history.

We have jettisoned the links to Native Americans. The mob got what they wanted, but that's it.

Using "Red" is just phonetics. Nothing objectionable about that.

[irish]

Originally Posted by JackLord

What is wrong with it being related to the old name?

We were the Redskins for a long, long time and in 2 different cities. We were also briefly the Braves. We have a longer history than most teams. One would think it reasonable that we cannot sever everything related to that history.

We have jettisoned the links to Native Americans. The mob got what they wanted, but that's it.

Using "Red" is just phonetics. Nothing objectionable about that.

Everything you say is true.

What I'm saying is the organization is going through this rename and after two years they aren't going anywhere near a name that can remotely cause the chance of more accusations which could create the potential for having to do another name change. WFT doesn't want to look like a bigger bunch of buffoons than they already are.

The colors are the link because if they really wanted to totally sever old ties they change to red, white, blue and call themselves the Americans or something like that. Even WFT is smart enough to know that would be too much for the fans that are left to swallow.

[JackLord]

Originally Posted by irish

Everything you say is true.

What I'm saying is the organization is going through this rename and after two years they aren't going anywhere near a name that can remotely cause the chance of more accusations which could create the potential for having to do another name change. WFT doesn't want to look like a bigger bunch of buffoons than they already are.

The colors are the link because if they really wanted to totally sever old ties they change to red, white, blue and call themselves the Americans or something like that. Even WFT is smart enough to know that would be too much for the fans that are left to swallow.

I hear you. I just don't see Redwolves as having the potential to cause that kind of blowback.

The Miami Redskins became the Redhawks while the St Johns Redmen became the Red Storm, so there is precedent.