Coronavirus (sports edition) thread

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

What is driving me crazy is that there are teams that have 90+% vaccination rates. Why are we the only ones at the bottom????

The leaguewide vaccination rate of almost 90% (as of Friday) exceeds that of the reported United States numbers by almost 20%.

WFT (as of Friday) was right there with the national average of around 70%, and likely surpassed it on Sunday when guys like AGG decided to get the vaccine after being provided with more information about it.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/31/s...ning-camp.html

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

The leaguewide vaccination rate of almost 90% (as of Friday) exceeds that of the reported United States numbers by almost 20%.

WFT (as of Friday) was right there with the national average of around 70%, and likely surpassed it on Sunday when guys like AGG decided to get the vaccine after being provided with more information about it.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/31/s...ning-camp.html

That's good perspective. At the same time, the typical US citizen doesn't play on a football team who could have to forfeit games, causing every player to lose game checks.

If everyone in your neighborhood would lose 1/17th of their income if there was an outbreak in your neighborhood, you'd be more likely to get vaccinated too. That's why I can't understand why we're not at 90-95 percent. Hopefully getting there soon.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

That's good perspective. At the same time, the typical US citizen doesn't play on a football team who could have to forfeit games, causing every player to lose game checks.

If everyone in your neighborhood would lose 1/17th of their income if there was an outbreak in your neighborhood, you'd be more likely to get vaccinated too. That's why I can't understand why we're not at 90-95 percent. Hopefully getting there soon.

My neighbors' income, and potential loss of some of it, would not factor into my decision regarding whether or not to get this vaccine. Not that I wouldn't care, I just don't base decisions regarding my health and welfare on my neighbors' anything.

The NFL put big time pressure on these guys to get the vaccine. Whether you like that tactic or not, it does seem to be working. Players are either doing a 180 after being provided more information, caving to the pressure, or simply making a new "business decision". But not everyone who doesn't want to get the vaccine, whatever their reason, is going to fold under the applied pressure; and I think the majority of players understand and respect that. It's mostly fans ("But I've been a die hard fan for years, what if they have to forfeit games") that don't respect the players' individual decisions.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

My neighbors' income, and potential loss of some of it, would not factor into my decision regarding whether or not to get this vaccine. Not that I wouldn't care, I just don't base decisions regarding my health and welfare on my neighbors' anything.

The NFL put big time pressure on these guys to get the vaccine. Whether you like that tactic or not, it does seem to be working. Players are either doing a 180 after being provided more information, caving to the pressure, or simply making a new "business decision". But not everyone who doesn't want to get the vaccine, whatever their reason, is going to fold under the applied pressure; and I think the majority of players understand and respect that. It's mostly fans ("But I've been a die hard fan for years, what if they have to forfeit games") that don't respect the players' individual decisions.

Sorry Chief but I really have a hard time with that part of the argument. Saying "I wish they did that" and not respecting someone's personal decision are 2 different things IMO.
We all have opinions about a lot of things all the time. I don't get why having an opinion about the best option on this particular matter is suddenly such a massive issue...
Like, if an environmentalist says "I wish more people would use public transportation rather than individual cars" (not "any body who owns a car should be sent to jail/fired from their jobs"), is it a breach in individual freedom ?

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by FrenchSkin

Sorry Chief but I really have a hard time with that part of the argument. Saying "I wish they did that" and not respecting someone's personal decision are 2 different things IMO.
We all have opinions about a lot of things all the time. I don't get why having an opinion about the best option on this particular matter is suddenly such a massive issue...
Like, if an environmentalist says "I wish more people would use public transportation rather than individual cars" (not "any body who owns a car should be sent to jail/fired from their jobs"), is it a breach in individual freedom ?

FS, I said it's mostly fans... Meaning, for the most part, what I have seen/heard, the players are being respectful of each other's decisions (at least on record), but it's mostly fans or others outside the NFL who are not - because God forbid a team has to forfeit a game. I didn't say all fans... If the shoe fits...

If you've read anything I've posted on here, I'm probably the last one who is going to be against someone for voicing an opinion, even if I disagree. Now, I don't particularly like it when individuals feel they have to berate or shame someone who has a different opinion, but we weren't all raised the same - so while I don't care for it, I'm understanding.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

FS, I said it's mostly fans... Meaning, for the most part, what I have seen/heard, the players are being respectful of each other's decisions (at least on record), but it's mostly fans or others outside the NFL who are not - because God forbid a team has to forfeit a game. I didn't say all fans... If the shoe fits...



If you've read anything I've posted on here, I'm probably the last one who is going to be against someone for voicing an opinion, even if I disagree. Now, I don't particularly like it when individuals feel they have to berate or shame someone who has a different opinion, but we weren't all raised the same - so while I don't care for it, I'm understanding.

Fair assessment IMO. I'm not a big fan of the actual climate where each side is calling the other side a bunch of brainless morons.
The atmosphere in France lately is about the same as what I can perceive from the US...

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