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Old 08-05-2021, 06:21 PM   #1
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NY seriously botched things in the nursing homes that’s not even up for debate. But covid hit nursing homes hard all over the US let’s not pretend this was only a NY problem.
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Old 08-05-2021, 06:43 PM   #2
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NY seriously botched things in the nursing homes that’s not even up for debate. But covid hit nursing homes hard all over the US let’s not pretend this was only a NY problem.
I never said it was a problem exclusively tied to NY - I mentioned New Jersey, Michigan and also said etc. But moving the sick into nursing homes were almost exclusively Democratic Governors policies. (Not all Dems and not even most but definitely some of them). My understanding is it was tied to campaign contributions to those Governors by nursing home lobbyists - bucks were involved - I guess we'll get the answers when the criminal investigation of Cuomo on his COVID actions concludes).

Oh as for botching things up not being up to debate I'd say there are several posters here (cough, Punch, Gianttone, cough) that are debating it.
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Old 08-05-2021, 08:53 PM   #3
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NY seriously botched things in the nursing homes that’s not even up for debate. But covid hit nursing homes hard all over the US let’s not pretend this was only a NY problem.
But New York happens to be currently run by someone who is clearly an arrogant bully. And it did not help that the media- including his clown of a little brother- touted him as the guy who was a guru at managing the crisis.

The list of politicians who screwed up royally is miles long. It transcends party lines and international borders.

What fascinates me, then and now, is that nobody seems capable of saying, "We are doing the best we can with what we believe to be the facts. We may be wrong and will adjust as needed."
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Old 08-06-2021, 05:45 AM   #4
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But New York happens to be currently run by someone who is clearly an arrogant bully. And it did not help that the media- including his clown of a little brother- touted him as the guy who was a guru at managing the crisis.

The list of politicians who screwed up royally is miles long. It transcends party lines and international borders.

What fascinates me, then and now, is that nobody seems capable of saying, "We are doing the best we can with what we believe to be the facts. We may be wrong and will adjust as needed."
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Old 08-06-2021, 08:05 AM   #5
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What fascinates me, then and now, is that nobody seems capable of saying, "We are doing the best we can with what we believe to be the facts. We may be wrong and will adjust as needed."
I thought Fauci had said this at least once maybe twice to Congress.
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Old 08-06-2021, 08:31 AM   #6
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I thought Fauci had said this at least once maybe twice to Congress.
After being challenged and called out? I would not doubt it. Little problem with U.S. Code section 1621-- General Perjury.

Why did it take testifying before Congress to admit error?

And Jintsfan, just to be clear, I LIKE Dr. Fauci. I am old enough to remember his counsel during the Anthrax scare. Just in case you were contemplating hurling some histrionics my way.
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After being challenged and called out? I would not doubt it. Little problem with U.S. Code section 1621-- General Perjury.

Why did it take testifying before Congress to admit error?

And Jintsfan, just to be clear, I LIKE Dr. Fauci. I am old enough to remember his counsel during the Anthrax scare. Just in case you were contemplating hurling some histrionics my way.
What error? They were doing the best they could with all the information avaiable to them as info changed so did suggestions,treatments,mandates, ...etc on how to handle . Criminalis knowing the seriouse of the problem and down playing it or saying it's fake and is made up by the other political party,hell it's not error .......it's criminal.Fauci did not purjur himsel,not even close.
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Old 08-06-2021, 09:08 AM   #8
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What error? They were doing the best they could with all the information avaiable to them as info changed so did suggestions,treatments,mandates, ...etc on how to handle . Criminalis knowing the seriouse of the problem and down playing it or saying it's fake and is made up by the other political party,hell it's not error .......it's criminal.Fauci did not purjur himsel,not even close.
What error? I don't know Jintsfan. You stated the good doctor admitted error before Congress. I am taking you at your word.
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