All things Middle East related

[mooby]

I'm not jumping in this debate on whether we should've left anymore, I've already said my piece on it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...dlT?li=BBnb7Kz

I did find this interesting though.

The question is - assuming all of our gear left behind was stuff we gave to the ANA to help them - would you rather have taken back all that gear when we left or just never gave it to them in the first place at all? Because either option basically guarantees they fold - whereas our whole strategy seemed to be arm them and train them to defend the nation long enough for us to get out.

In hindsight yes it's obviously a failure on our part to underestimate how many actually cared about fighting the Taliban but we don't have the luxury of knowing hindsight when we're making plans to withdraw.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'm not jumping in this debate on whether we should've left anymore, I've already said my piece on it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...dlT?li=BBnb7Kz

I did find this interesting though.

The question is - assuming all of our gear left behind was stuff we gave to the ANA to help them - would you rather have taken back all that gear when we left or just never gave it to them in the first place at all? Because either option basically guarantees they fold - whereas our whole strategy seemed to be arm them and train them to defend the nation long enough for us to get out.

In hindsight yes it's obviously a failure on our part to underestimate how many actually cared about fighting the Taliban but we don't have the luxury of knowing hindsight when we're making plans to withdraw.

I said something similar. People (anti Biden) say we fucked up and yes the withdrawal was a massive fuck up I make no excuses for it. The equipment argument is BS .We left it to the Afghan Army and they deserted their own people they left it not the US. What we did leave they either can not use or it was disabled .